foxy lady Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yup, that's the one. Wasn't it supposed to mean, against western education, or something like that? If that's true, then isn't it somewhat hypocritical for them to utilise technology that only exists because of 'western education' (science, I guess)? I may be wrong but I think it is only women they don't want educating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I may be wrong but I think it is only women they don't want educating. Their name translates as, AFAUI, "Western Learning is Taboo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 How so? Do you not think they'd be a hell of a lot more dangerous, if they had reason and more intelligence, and could for example build their own weapons? ---------- Post added 26-02-2015 at 22:24 ---------- Yup, that's the one. Wasn't it supposed to mean, against western education, or something like that? If that's true, then isn't it somewhat hypocritical for them to utilise technology that only exists because of 'western education' (science, I guess)? Mostly based on the foundations that were laid by the Muslims in the 9th and 10th centuries... if it wasn't for the basic research that was done by them the Renaissance would never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mostly based on the foundations that were laid by the Muslims in the 9th and 10th centuries... if it wasn't for the basic research that was done by them the Renaissance would never have happened. I agree with you that some of the early Muslims were great scientists and mathematicians, but the current fundamentalists such as ISIS regard those people as not true Muslims. They deny all the early Islamic science and want to go back to the time when Mohammed lived. This article explains it very well, but it's quite long - http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I agree with you that some of the early Muslims were great scientists and mathematicians, but the current fundamentalists such as ISIS regard those people as not true Muslims. They deny all the early Islamic science and want to go back to the time when Mohammed lived. This article explains it very well, but it's quite long - http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ I think that's what many Muslims on here argue, yet get lumbered with the ISIS fundamentalist stick as one simply because of the term Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloom Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Ahh........got you now! So there hypocrites as well then, glad we got that sorted! The expert on Sky said there will be lots of gold ones with them too, but you don't see them being destroyed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ladd Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mostly based on the foundations that were laid by the Muslims in the 9th and 10th centuries... if it wasn't for the basic research that was done by them the Renaissance would never have happened. That's the irony, what happened to them? I was reading about Mehmet 2nd (the Ottoman leader who conquered Constantinople) one of the first things he did was pay an Italian artist to decorate his new palace with statues, paintings of the human form and a bit of risqué stuff as well, His son was Selim the Sot so called because he liked a drink. When and why did things change in this peculiar belief system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Ironically using camera phones. that indeed is the irony with Islamists. They are modernists. They don't use bows and arrows either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Unless they think their god is Steve Jobs by inventing the iPhone. The iPhone is a false idol. They use Android. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popsicle Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Gah, can't even express my feelings (mostly because I'd get banned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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