Bonzo77 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 There's cheap accommodation in Page Hall. And I can do a weeks shop in Lidl for under £10. You can do a weeks shopping for under £10?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go4it Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) There is no beauty about zero hours contracts. At the end of the day, whether you're good at your job or not, if the works not there, you don't get paid. Zero hours contracts should be illegal. They work for young people, 16-21, who have other commitments and want a job for extra pocket money. Often these young people have another career in mind. A zero hour contract means they can take time off, particularly around exams to revise. For businesses that employ young people they are great. The business can respond to demand so avoid having 10 staff on when only 4 are needed. There was someone on the news a while back moaning about his zero hour contract and that he couldn't support his family. He was a waiter. One profession where hours fluctuate constantly. If you are starting a family, make sure you have a secure, more reliable job with guaranteed hours per week. ---------- Post added 01-03-2015 at 13:22 ---------- You can do a weeks shopping for under £10?? Yes, and even with a few bottles of lager thrown in. Edited March 1, 2015 by go4it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 They work for young people, 16-21, who have other commitments and want a job for extra pocket money. Often these young people have another career in mind. A zero hour contract means they can take time off, particularly around exams to revise. For businesses that employ young people they are great. The business can respond to demand so avoid having 10 staff on when only 4 are needed. There was someone on the news a while back moaning about his zero hour contract and that he couldn't support his family. He was a waiter. One profession where hours fluctuate constantly. If you are starting a family, make sure you have a secure, more reliable job with guaranteed hours per work. ---------- Post added 01-03-2015 at 13:22 ---------- Yes, and even with a few bottles of lager thrown in. Rubbish! Even young people with other commitments want to know that there guaranteed a certain income. People like to plan their work, that's impossible when you have a zero hours contact. And, why shouldn't a waiter be able to start a family? It's not like restaurants don't make enough to pay a decent wage and employ staff full time. ---------- Post added 01-03-2015 at 13:27 ---------- Yes, and even with a few bottles of lager thrown in. No you can't. Not unless you're eating noodles and bread for every meal. Better off robbing Lidl and eating prison food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go4it Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) And, why shouldn't a waiter be able to start a family? It's not like restaurants don't make enough to pay a decent wage and employ staff full time. Someone who doesn't know the restaurant trade. Some nights restaurants are packed, some nights they are dead. Staff often get old their hours the week before as it depends on bookings. The Chav places like Carvery and Beefeater tend to have a steady flow of punters, so hours are predictable. But still there are fluctuations, as there are quieter periods of the year than others. A family may have someone working in a restaurant to support their spouse who has another job. But as a sole income for a family it just does not work. Edited March 1, 2015 by go4it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 In my experience people who are on zero hour contracts soon find their hours drying up if they try to pick and choose the house that they work, so the flexibility of a zero hour contract only deems to go one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go4it Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) No you can't. Not unless you're eating noodles and bread for every meal. Better off robbing Lidl and eating prison food. Bran Flakes were 55p a box last time I looked, two boxes would feed a family of 4 for breakfast for a week = £1.10 Milk is around £1 - 2 cartons - £2 Pasta, baked beans, chilli sauce, various veg etc. Cut backs would have to be made - drinking tea without milk, tap water to drink instead of juice. You may end up having beans on toast for a few nights a week, but it is possible. People must adapt their lifestyle. ---------- Post added 01-03-2015 at 13:41 ---------- if they try to pick and choose the house that they work This is the other problem - people try to dictate to businesses when they can work. Classic is the young mum who can only work between 11 and 2 on weekdays, and must be able to leave work when school call to say little Tululla has a cough. People must take what is given to them, and adapt their lifestyle to make it suit. Edited March 1, 2015 by go4it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) It worked perfectly well up to 2003. The streets were not littered with people living in cardboard boxes. There were not mobs of people outside every supermarket screaming they could not afford food. Funny how people just seemed to deal with it. Their wage was their wage and they managed to live the best they could afford to do so. Along came Labour and their union puppet masters screaming poverty on everyone. Suddenly everyone MUST have at least wtc to survive. Experts were suddenly reporting that people were "living in modern day poverty" Suddenly everyone must have a pay increase in order to buy things and put a roof over their head. Suddenly everyone is not able to afford food and must have handouts from foodbanks. What's changed? Cost of living REALLY increased that much? horse crap. More like people's expectations of what a living wage is has been totally blurred by the rent a gob unions and a fictitious minimum standard of living which includes such ludicrous things such as computers, mobiles, car, luxury foods, digital television and computer games has been created. Everyone thinks they must have X as a bare minimum and if they cant afford it, the state should pay. Time to stop this madness. Benefits were supposed to be for those in GENUINE NEED. Low income is NOT poverty. Stop the handouts and just watch how many working people suddenly realise that they CAN afford to live on the wage they earn. You know, just like everyone seemed to be able to do perfectly well before this failed idea came along. You're talking rubbish. On min wage you can't buy a house, rent a house, afford travel, food, costs, dental, clothes etc etc. it's all not possible without subsidies or borrowing money. ---------- Post added 01-03-2015 at 14:04 ---------- There's cheap accommodation in Page Hall. And I can do a weeks shop in Lidl for under £10. 3 meals a day, 7 days a week. 21 meals. You telling me you can make 21 nutritious meals for 50p each? what about heating and energy used to pay for these meals? what about travel? I think the last time I did a sub £10 shop was in the 1990s! You don't seem to be living in 2015 pal ---------- Post added 01-03-2015 at 14:07 ---------- You think a lot of kids actually watch dragons den and the apprentice and are so influenced by those shows they expect too much? Cripes if that's the case we really do have problems! Absolutely. Theres even schools for entrepreneurs now. It's got massive influence but its all for TV, not real world. Edited March 1, 2015 by ubermaus ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go4it Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You're talking rubbish. On min wage you can't buy a house, rent a house, afford travel, food, costs, dental, clothes etc etc. it's all not possible without subsidies or borrowing money. Then go back to school and get some qualifications and a better job. People have 11 years of free education in this country. They prat about then moan they have no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 You can do a weeks shopping for under £10?? That was a ROFL! moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 This is the other problem - people try to dictate to businesses when they can work. Classic is the young mum who can only work between 11 and 2 on weekdays, and must be able to leave work when school call to say little Tululla has a cough. People must take what is given to them, and adapt their lifestyle to make it suit. Hang on a moment, a few posts ago you were saying that zero hour contracts were good for employees because they can choose when they are available for work, and now you are complain that employees want to choose when they're available for work. Also what are you suggesting in your example of a young mum wanting to work, that a mums responsibility to their child is a lifestyle choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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