johncocker Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 this is starting to sound like the missing Malaysian airliner mystery i know its to early to state with any real certainty whether this latest air mystery had this same cause but there are reports of the co-pilot desperately trying to gain access to a locked cockpit and being met by an eerie silence . If pilot suicide should prove to be the cause then the aviation world has a real problem on it's hands..Assuming for the moment that the pilot of this plane really was determind to kill himself by crashing it into a mountain how can you predict such a thing? Airline Captains are regularly tested for their flying capabilities but what about their physcholigical situations? how are they tested for that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 this is starting to sound like the missing Malaysian airliner mystery i know its to early to state with any real certainty whether this latest air mystery had this same cause but there are reports of the co-pilot desperately trying to gain access to a locked cockpit and being met by an eerie silence . If pilot suicide should prove to be the cause then the aviation world has a real problem on it's hands..Assuming for the moment that the pilot of this plane really was determind to kill himself by crashing it into a mountain how can you predict such a thing? Airline Captains are regularly tested for their flying capabilities but what about their physcholigical situations? how are they tested for that?? If it was "suicide" it must have been a spur of the moment thing..how did he know the captain would leave the cockpit? are most suicide decisions taken like that? Genuine question.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas1 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 this is starting to sound like the missing Malaysian airliner mystery It isnt, we know a lot more about this after two days than we do about that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This is just incredible, and so sad. I don't think we know the half of it yet, but then again, this time, maybe we never will. How can you ever find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 If it was "suicide" it must have been a spur of the moment thing..how did he know the captain would leave the cockpit? are most suicide decisions taken like that? Genuine question.. If he was intent upon suicide (or murder...depends on how you view it)...He would have known the captain would leave the cockpit at some point during the flight....He probably wouldn't have cared at which point in the flight, that might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This is just incredible, and so sad. I don't think we know the half of it yet, but then again, this time, maybe we never will. How can you ever find out? If they find the FDR and it is readable then they can say for definite what happened on the flight deck...but that doesn't mean they'll know why..for example they'll see a particular control was moved but can't say if it was deliberate or if it was knocked while the guy was having a fit or coronary etc. ---------- Post added 26-03-2015 at 14:50 ---------- If he was intent upon suicide (or murder...depends on how you view it)...He would have known the captain would leave the cockpit at some point during the flight....He probably wouldn't have cared at which point in the flight, that might have been. It's not a particularly long leg from Barca to Dusseldorf...I'm not sure there is a guarantee that the the other guy would leave the flight deck.. but who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas1 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) If he was intent upon suicide (or murder...depends on how you view it)...He would have known the captain would leave the cockpit at some point during the flight....He probably wouldn't have cared at which point in the flight, that might have been. One assumes that this would have been the second flight of the day for both men. He may not have got his opportunity on the Dusseldorf-Barcalona flight (flight number 4U 9525, dept. 0645, arr. 0855) and so decided to do so on the return (dept. 0935) given the pilot would not really have had time to go and use the bathroom given the short turnaround of these low cost airlines. And dependent on the shift patterns he may have got another two opportunities that day as well. Edited March 26, 2015 by Vegas1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 If it was "suicide" it must have been a spur of the moment thing..how did he know the captain would leave the cockpit? are most suicide decisions taken like that? Genuine question.. Not really. At some point during the day the captain is going to leave the flight deck. It just happened to be this flight he did it on. With the preflight and postflight procedures, that flight will be a lt longer than the average bladder will last, and during the flight is the logical time to go take a leak for both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikita Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I read somewhere its usual for the captain to wait until he reaches a certain height and they are at cruising speed before he takes a toilet break if needed. Perhaps its just lucky they were not flying over a built up area when he went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 If they find the FDR and it is readable then they can say for definite what happened on the flight deck...but that doesn't mean they'll know why..for example they'll see a particular control was moved but can't say if it was deliberate or if it was knocked while the guy was having a fit or coronary etc. Could it be that the windscreen shattered, (another theory,) and he lost consciousness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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