New Tory Welfare Cuts revealed..

[loraward]

Nothing I see about tackling the housing benefits bill or clawing back benefits from wealthy pensioners. Or dealing with low wages, issues with which are made worse by the explosion of zero hours contracts.

 

Housing benefits and pensions use up nearly 60% of welfare spending. Tax credits account for nearly 70% of HMRC spend.

 

Tax credits and housing benefits supplement wages, propping up businesses and private landlords.

 

Pensioners prop up the Tory vote.

 

All these things are no-go for the Tories. They prefer to punish people down on their luck, the sick, the disabled.

 

The Tories are an utterly despicable party. Absolutely heartless and inhuman scum.

 

Low wages and zero hours contracts are the consequence of an over supply of low skilled labour.

 

Abolishing tax credits will just make people poorer because employers have no need to pay more than they pay, cut the oversupply of available workers and wages will rise and tax credits will fall.

[sheff1johnny]

Low wages and zero hours contracts are the consequence of an over supply of low skilled labour.

 

Abolishing tax credits will just make people poorer because employers have no need to pay more than they pay, cut the oversupply of available workers and wages will rise and tax credits will fall.

 

I think a lack of regulation hasn't helped. Companies that don't pay the minimum wage receive a paltry fine, hardly a disincentive is it?

Even First is trying something similar. They only want to pay drivers when they are sat at the drivers wheel of the bus, and not pay them for travelling to pick up different buses.

[go4it]

All these things are no-go for the Tories. They prefer to punish people down on their luck, the sick, the disabled.

 

The Tories are an utterly despicable party. Absolutely heartless and inhuman scum.

 

The problem is that although there are many genuine cases, a lot of people have figured out ways to play the system.

 

If left untouched it will spiral out of control.

 

It is a case of a minority spoiling it for the majority, but this is something in this country we can't comprehend. Everyone is looking out for themselves, claiming what they can.

 

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I think a lack of regulation hasn't helped. Companies that don't pay the minimum wage receive a paltry fine, hardly a disincentive is it?

Even First is trying something similar. They only want to pay drivers when they are sat at the drivers wheel of the bus, and not pay them for travelling to pick up different buses.

 

But you have Joe Public moaning every day at the price of bus fares.

 

As a result there are people in Sheffield who scoff at paying even £12 a week for a bus pass. Go to London and they would bite your hand off for that price.

 

When the pubic are demanding lower fares, and writing to their Councillors to moan at bus services, action needs to be taken.

 

Plus in Sheffield people (particularly in the North) are incredibly inconsiderate on the buses and leave them in a mess. This costs money.

 

Hence First have to save money where they can.

[Mister M]

Ahead of any cuts, you can guarantee that the gutter press will be softening up the public by feeding them stories of the unemployed living off the largesse of the state.

[I1L2T3]

Low wages and zero hours contracts are the consequence of an over supply of low skilled labour.

 

Abolishing tax credits will just make people poorer because employers have no need to pay more than they pay, cut the oversupply of available workers and wages will rise and tax credits will fall.

 

Not that simple.

 

Arguably the rise in numbers of these contracts is also a result of the increasingly lax framework that employers are operating within.

 

Employers have to pay the minimum wage so they can't just pay what they want.

 

Not much we can do about workers coming here from the EU. Even if we left the EU we'd be in the EEA and subject to agreements about free movement of workers that would most likely be a condition of continued membership of the EEA trading bloc. UKIP don't like to tell you that. As for non-EEA migrants the other thing UKIP don't like to tell you is that in leaving the EU and subsequently concluding our own trading agreements with other countries (e.g. India, Pakistan) we will no longer have the muscle that the EU provides to withstand the more extreme demands from non-EEA trade partners over movement of people.

 

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Ahead of any cuts, you can guarantee that the gutter press will be softening up the public by feeding them stories of the unemployed living off the largesse of the state.

 

The regional variation on benefits is also a precursor to a regional minimum wage, just a part of the softening up process.

 

I'd guarantee that if the Tories are elected there will be a regionally varied minimum wage before the end of the parliament.

 

We're on dangerous ground here.

[Anna B]

Make sure they're not elected then.

 

Irony is there's never been so much money sloshing about, particularly in Britain. But it has pooled in certain areas and failed to trickle down. It is not circulating properly and instead it's ending up in the hands of the super rich.

[loraward]

Ahead of any cuts, you can guarantee that the gutter press will be softening up the public by feeding them stories of the unemployed living off the largesse of the state.

As long as it's the truth it shouldn't be a problem.

 

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Not that simple.

 

Arguably the rise in numbers of these contracts is also a result of the increasingly lax framework that employers are operating within.

 

Employers have to pay the minimum wage so they can't just pay what they want.

 

Not much we can do about workers coming here from the EU. Even if we left the EU we'd be in the EEA and subject to agreements about free movement of workers that would most likely be a condition of continued membership of the EEA trading bloc. UKIP don't like to tell you that. As for non-EEA migrants the other thing UKIP don't like to tell you is that in leaving the EU and subsequently concluding our own trading agreements with other countries (e.g. India, Pakistan) we will no longer have the muscle that the EU provides to withstand the more extreme demands from non-EEA trade partners over movement of people.

 

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The regional variation on benefits is also a precursor to a regional minimum wage, just a part of the softening up process.

 

I'd guarantee that if the Tories are elected there will be a regionally varied minimum wage before the end of the parliament.

 

We're on dangerous ground here.

 

Then there is little we can do about low wages, zero hours contracts, unaffordable housing and high living costs.

[Mister M]

As long as it's the truth it shouldn't be a problem.

 

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Then there is little we can do about low wages, zero hours contracts, unaffordable housing and high living costs.

 

Proportionality and context are just as important. For every workshy scrounger there are many more who are vulnerable and / or have paid into the system. These rarely make the headlines as they are ordinary rather than grotesque. They will be the ones to suffer, and their suffering will be ignored by the press.

Also what does it say about the relationship between politicians and the media if vulnerable people can be savaged by the press by the merest dog whistle from some scuzzy politician or apparatchik?

Cameron and Osborne should be reminded that they promised not to balance the books on the backs of the poor.

[ubermaus]

On BBC red dot, it states in leaked documents Tories are considering...

Planning a regional welfare cap

Taxing Disability Benefits

Reducing eligibilty for carer's allowance.

 

Conservatives insist the proposals are not party policy... Yes okay, not totally convinced.

 

If they get in power they can do anything, surely the public cant let these snakes in again.

[El Cid]

If they get in power they can do anything, surely the public cant let these snakes in again.

 

I agree, but I agree with a "a regional welfare cap". I am not sure its the right way to limit benefits, but just like the bedroom tax, the principle is good. Its just a shame that Labour cannot do something similar.