What Would Happen If Loads Refused To Pay Council Tax

[Longcol]

......"It may be truthful to say spending on pensions is the equlvalent of 30% of council tax collected"

I think that's all I meant to say anyway, .........but thanks for explaining it!

 

Somehow I think you were aiming your comments at the people who think all council spending comes from council tax and the council is unable to provide services because such a large proportion is spent on pensions. You will remind them only 4% of SCC's spend is on pensions won't you

[mossdog]

If the Barclay Brothers, the owners of the Telegraph paid tax it may even help the country. Do a search on them, you may find out more, they will not have to worry about their pension. http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2012/dec/17/barclay-brothers-bbc

I neither believe everything I read in the Guardian neither the Telegraph as I think certain employees involved in either will not have to worry about their pensions!

[loraward]

This thread concerns council tax, not who ultimately supplies the service. The council don't empty our dustbins. From the 2015/ 16 council budget, the fire service element from your council tax is as follows:

 

Band A: 44.21 B: 51.58 c: 58.95 D: 66.32

 

E: 81.06 F: 95.80 G: 110.53 H: 132.64

 

So out of my £1800 a year £81 goes to the fire service, I can live with that because they provide a good service, but I don't like the idea of funding an organisation as useless as RMBC. The fire service could also be part funded by insurance, we all pay it for our cars and houses so it makes sense that the insurance company compensates the fire service if they attend an accident or fire.

 

This is the post I answered.

 

I have just received my new council tax bill from Rotherham Council (its increased in cost) but I am loath to pay any hard earned money to this useless organisation, the roads where I live are an absolute disgrace and having written to the council about them they have no intention of doing anything with them for at least two more years, the Rotherham abuse scandal, incompetent leaders on huge salaries, pay offs for people who have gone because they cannot do there jobs properly, the Icelandic bank scandal of a few years ago etc etc.

 

It really is criminal to throw any more money at this shambles and its high time the public took a stand and refused to pay up!!! :rant:

[bazjea]

So out of my £1800 a year £81 goes to the fire service, I can live with that because they provide a good service, but I don't like the idea of funding an organisation as useless as RMBC. The fire service could also be part funded by insurance, we all pay it for our cars and houses so it makes sense that the insurance company compensates the fire service if they attend an accident or fire.

 

This is the post I answered.

 

As you appear to live in Sheffield. Surely your council tax will not go

toward RMBC budget

Edited March 29, 2015 by bazjea

[Jim117]

The simple answer to the OP's question is that it will never happen. We now live in an era where people think signing an online petition constitutes direct action, it doesn't. Speaking as someone who was part of the poll tax protests (and got a 6 month suspended for my pains) I'm pretty sure Maggie wouldn't have caved in to a hate campaign on Twitter,etc. Regarding the people on here who think the poll tax was a good idea I'll just present the following case. A workmate at the time was sharing a small victorian terraced house with his parents and 2 sisters. Under the poll tax their bill jumped from about 300 quid to about 1300 quid. Why? What extra services were they suddenly receiving? Couple of extra bins perhaps? To put these sums into perspective, at the time I was taking home 70 odd quid for a 40 hour week so these increases were massive to an average working class family. At the time I swore I'd never vote Tory in my life. Somewhat ironic then that I did at the last general election after seeing what a balls up New Labour had made of the job. (And I'd originally helped vote them in too!)

[mossdog]

The simple answer to the OP's question is that it will never happen. We now live in an era where people think signing an online petition constitutes direct action, it doesn't. Speaking as someone who was part of the poll tax protests (and got a 6 month suspended for my pains) I'm pretty sure Maggie wouldn't have caved in to a hate campaign on Twitter,etc. Regarding the people on here who think the poll tax was a good idea I'll just present the following case. A workmate at the time was sharing a small victorian terraced house with his parents and 2 sisters. Under the poll tax their bill jumped from about 300 quid to about 1300 quid. Why? What extra services were they suddenly receiving? Couple of extra bins perhaps? To put these sums into perspective, at the time I was taking home 70 odd quid for a 40 hour week so these increases were massive to an average working class family. At the time I swore I'd never vote Tory in my life. Somewhat ironic then that I did at the last general election after seeing what a balls up New Labour had made of the job. (And I'd originally helped vote them in too!)

,,,,,[ A workmate at the time was sharing a small victorian terraced house with his parents and 2 sisters].

 

 

There may have been up to five wages going into that house!.Next door might have only had one wage but might have paid the same council tax/rates till the poll tax came in.

Winners and losers Jim,as in all things financial!

[top4718]

The simple answer to the OP's question is that it will never happen. We now live in an era where people think signing an online petition constitutes direct action, it doesn't. Speaking as someone who was part of the poll tax protests (and got a 6 month suspended for my pains) I'm pretty sure Maggie wouldn't have caved in to a hate campaign on Twitter,etc. Regarding the people on here who think the poll tax was a good idea I'll just present the following case. A workmate at the time was sharing a small victorian terraced house with his parents and 2 sisters. Under the poll tax their bill jumped from about 300 quid to about 1300 quid. Why? What extra services were they suddenly receiving? Couple of extra bins perhaps? To put these sums into perspective, at the time I was taking home 70 odd quid for a 40 hour week so these increases were massive to an average working class family. At the time I swore I'd never vote Tory in my life. Somewhat ironic then that I did at the last general election after seeing what a balls up New Labour had made of the job. (And I'd originally helped vote them in too!)

 

A very good post Jim, I too remember the hardships that the hated poll tax caused (and would continue to cause), I don't have a problem with paying a tax if I knew the recipient was using it in the best way possible, councillors particularly at RMBC appear totally incapable of managing public money, the village I live in will pay a large amount of council tax due the amount of higher band properties yet the roads are becoming undriveable (the recently departed leader was earning £14k plus a month).

[mossdog]

The poll tax was in a lot of peoples eyes a fair tax but unworkable but now gone anyway!

What is not fair in my eyes is student properties that do not pay council tax.Surely Landlords in the business of making money should have to pay like the rest of us.It seemed fair in the early days to encourage further education,but now Universities are big business and people in the chain should pay their fair share

[Magilla]

Privitising increases prices and doesnt necessarily improve services.

 

Odd then that you were saying the exact opposite in this thread when I stated "decent TV would cost a lot more":-

 

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1383561

Edited March 30, 2015 by Magilla

[Berberis]

The poll tax was in a lot of peoples eyes a fair tax but unworkable but now gone anyway!

What is not fair in my eyes is student properties that do not pay council tax.Surely Landlords in the business of making money should have to pay like the rest of us.It seemed fair in the early days to encourage further education,but now Universities are big business and people in the chain should pay their fair share

 

I agree. Students still use all of the services and are legally adults so why should they not pay council tax?