Obelix Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Maybe he just dislikes tailored suits :-( We weren't even sharing the road, I was on the pavement. His problem was it was so greasy he fell off trying to bump up the kerb. Oh and someones gone and thrown his bike in the river now too after he left it by the side of the road. Bet I'll get blamed for that as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Well quite. I can understand now at least partly though why some people do tend to have such a loathing for them. My loathing at the moment is very specific and particular and long may it stay that way. Presumably you've been in some kind of altercation with a car in the past? I've been rear ended, had someone run into the side of me, had near misses and including when I've been on the bike and they could have killed me. I don't loath motorists though, that would be stupid. ---------- Post added 01-04-2015 at 07:29 ---------- The problem as I see it, is that if they should get accidentally knocked down as a result of such pursuits, and the relevant driver (i) cannot avoid the accident due to the cyclist's recklessness and (ii) has no dashcam (or the angle does not cover the relevant scene) to prove his innocence...who do you think will get it in the neck? Reminds me of the pack of 4 Darwin Award contestants riding abreast (1 of them in & out of the oncoming lane FFS!) that "ran into" me the other weekend on the A634 between Blyth and Oldcotes. Without evidence, neither. We have no presumption that motorists are in the wrong. ---------- Post added 01-04-2015 at 07:30 ---------- Maybe he just dislikes tailored suits :-( We weren't even sharing the road, I was on the pavement. His problem was it was so greasy he fell off trying to bump up the kerb. Oh and someones gone and thrown his bike in the river now too after he left it by the side of the road. Bet I'll get blamed for that as well... He left his bike there? Well, call it karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Maybe he just dislikes tailored suits :-( We weren't even sharing the road, I was on the pavement. His problem was it was so greasy he fell off trying to bump up the kerb. Oh and someones gone and thrown his bike in the river now too after he left it by the side of the road. Bet I'll get blamed for that as well... Where did all this happen . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Without evidence, neither. We have no presumption that motorists are in the wrong.One's witness statement will stand as evidence (in default of better) in civil proceedings. So the cyclist's will, just as much as the drivers', and it will be up to the court to decide who's right and who's wrong (not who's lying and who's not) under the balance of probabilities test. In that context, ambulance-chasing claim firms beg to differ with your 'neither': the driver is insured, so there's something for the cyclist('s no-win no-fee hounds) to go after. And it's still cheaper for the driver's insurance to write a small cheque to make it all go away for sure, than a large cheque to their own hounds for fighting a maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycleracer Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Well quite. I can understand now at least partly though why some people do tend to have such a loathing for them. My loathing at the moment is very specific and particular and long may it stay that way. Obleix,, we are well aware of your "loathing" for cyclists but to be honest you might change your opinion if you actually try cycling on the roads yourself. I don't doubt there are roug cyclists on the road jumping red lights and riding without lights but as a regular cyclist myself and a car driver I can tell you the level of idiots driving cars is far far higher than the careless cyclist. Look in the mirror when you slag off cyclists and realise the reality that the most dangerous people on our roads have engines, take it from an experienced cyclist and driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Obleix,, we are well aware of your "loathing" for cyclists but to be honest you might change your opinion if you actually try cycling on the roads yourself. I don't doubt there are roug cyclists on the road jumping red lights and riding without lights but as a regular cyclist myself and a car driver I can tell you the level of idiots driving cars is far far higher than the careless cyclist. Look in the mirror when you slag off cyclists and realise the reality that the most dangerous people on our roads have engines, take it from an experienced cyclist and driver You say you dont doubt. Does that mean youve never seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cycleracer Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 You say you dont doubt. Does that mean youve never seen it? Don't doubt means I have seen it, I doubt means I have not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I hope that the OP gets better soon. My elbow is still causing me considerable pain after I was knocked off my bike by a car pulling out of a junction. The hysterical driver who helped picked me off the floor loudly proclaimed that she normally looks when she pulls out of junctions. She left me sat on the side of the road still dazed and drove off without leaving her contact details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Don't doubt means I have seen it, I doubt means I have not.... No, Dont doubt means just that, you dont doubt it. If youve seen it then say youve seen it. Which you now have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 . . . as a regular cyclist myself and a car driver I can tell you the level of idiots driving cars is far far higher than the careless cyclist. True. How many idiotic cyclists do I encounter on the roads? Less than one per month. How many idiotic drivers do I encounter on the roads? Several per journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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