loraward Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 If you are offered ZOC work at the Job centre and refuse, your benefit is stopped. You have obviously never been in this situation. ---------- Post added 03-04-2015 at 12:05 ---------- Every Day?!!! Do you by any chance read The Daily Mail, the paper that supported Hitler's fascist Nazi party? What planet are you on? I'm self employed so do work a zero hours contract. No I don't read any papers but I occasionally come across stories on line from a large variety of sources including the DM and every other national or local paper. The one in which British people are free to choose the nature of their employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 It's pretty simple really. If you want to employ folk on zero hours contracts you just make sure that their contract finishes after 10 weeks. They return to the dole and you employ the next person on a zero hours contract. Pretty straightforward really. Well done Ed for coming up with another totally useless proposal. ah but that's not allowed to happen with these companies ---------- Post added 03-04-2015 at 12:43 ---------- The one in which British people are free to choose the nature of their employment. not if they are signing on they cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loraward Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 ah but that's not allowed to happen with these companies ---------- Post added 03-04-2015 at 12:43 ---------- not if they are signing on they cant In what why can they not choose, the benefits office don't force anyone to work somewhere they don't want to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 In what why can they not choose, the benefits office don't force anyone to work somewhere they don't want to work. have you signed on recently ? take a read here http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/28/help-to-work-britains-jobless-forced-workfare-unemployed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) I seem to have heard it would be after so many weeks you get the right to ask and then after so many more weeks you get the right to a job. Absolutely barmy he is. He has never had to make ends meet in a business, and cant have listened to many people who run a business. He lives in la la land when the pay comes in whether he performs or not. if you have employed someone essentially full time for 12 weeks then that suggests that you have enough work to support a full time permanent worker, so why not employ one? people genuinely using zero hours contract labour, and similar things, to cover sesonal peaks in demand shouldn't be afraid of this. in fact, they should welcome it as it should drive many of the employers who abuse them out of the market. ---------- Post added 03-04-2015 at 13:01 ---------- Most zero hours contract jobs would cease to exist if the employer was forced to offer a full time job. So the alternative is to survive on the dole. why would the jobs cease to exist? the work would still need to be done, so who would do it? Edited April 3, 2015 by andyofborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 have you signed on recently ? take a read here http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/28/help-to-work-britains-jobless-forced-workfare-unemployed The government are trying every tactic to get people off benefits, but not necessarily into work. It's typical Tory ideology, they want to dismantle the welfare state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loraward Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 have you signed on recently ? take a read here http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/28/help-to-work-britains-jobless-forced-workfare-unemployed How does that remove choice, you can choose to sign on and follow the rules they impose or you can choose not to, you can choose to accept a ZHC or you can chose not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteMorris Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 How does that remove choice, you can choose to sign on and follow the rules they impose or you can choose not to, you can choose to accept a ZHC or you can chose not to. How ridiculous is that statement?....Choose to sign on, or choose not to?....Choose to get some benefits or live on fresh air.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loraward Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 How ridiculous is that statement?....Choose to sign on, or choose not to?....Choose to get some benefits or live on fresh air.... Its a choice, choosing between between two or more possibilities. Choose to sign on and follow the rules or choose not to sign on and find an alternative way to provide for yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppet2 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 How does that remove choice, you can choose to sign on and follow the rules they impose or you can choose not to, you can choose to accept a ZHC or you can chose not to. Are you a teenager working on a school project? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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