Conservative plan to not charge inheritance tax on homes worth under1m

[Berberis]

You're still using the phrase...and I'm sorry whether you like it or not and regardless of yours or anyone else's opinion on here...He's NOT a war criminal....YET

 

So you would prefer people did not voice their opinions.

 

This sounds like you want to brush it under the carpet, which would contradict your claims that you "have no feelings one way or another for TB".

[PeteMorris]

So you would prefer people did not voice their opinions.

 

This sounds like you want to brush it under the carpet, which would contradict your claims that you "have no feelings one way or another for TB".

 

No, as I said earlier...this discussion is completely off topic and as I also said, I'd happily discuss it on a more relevant thread.

[L00b]

Saddam's top military adviser says Iraqi WMD's were moved to Syria, and there are also reports that ISIS now has them.

Saddam's weaponized WMDs weren't moved to Syria, most were destroyed after the first US-Iraq war, although some were simply buried here and there for expediency, mostly around the factory sites like at Samarra.

 

That's how and why US and Coalition eventually came across these shells after the re-run of 2003 (and that was hushed-up sharpish at the time) and, when the story eventually broke, how and why the hawks falsely claimed that they had been right all along.

 

ISIS might have gotten hold of some of these buried shells when they overran the Samarra region in mid- to -late 2014, but reports of actual use (in Kobani, AFAIR) are still sketchy and unproven. In any case, unless ISIS have WMD-trained BDT experts, I predict that such shells would prove much more dangerous to them than to anyone else. There's a few French and Belgian expert BDT officers (not to mention Darwin Award-grade civvies) who have died or were severely injured handling such shells (mostly WW1 stock) in the past few decades who can attest to that, besides the US and Iraqi BDT team casualties post-2003.

Edited April 15, 2015 by L00b

[Alan Ladd]

Saddam's top military adviser says Iraqi WMD's were moved to Syria, and there are also reports that ISIS now has them.

 

And David Bowie asked if there was life on Mars.

 

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To try to get back on topic, the above to me illustrates the problem with modern politics, it started with Thatcher and Tim Bell and came to fruition under Blair and Mandelson its called "spin".

 

When Milliband states that Labour is no the party of financial probity it is spin, he is a socialist, they are incapable of financial probity, they are only good at spending other peoples money. Look locally, £74m on the earth centre at Denaby near Doncaster, (never heard of it?) Well under Labour they spent the above amount financing what turned out to be an outward bound school. Could have been done for £500,000.

[loraward]

Saddam's weaponized WMDs weren't moved to Syria, most were destroyed after the first US-Iraq war, although some were simply buried here and there for expediency, mostly around the factory sites like at Samarra.

 

That's how and why US and Coalition eventually came across these shells after the re-run of 2003 (and that was hushed-up sharpish at the time) and, when the story eventually broke, how and why the hawks falsely claimed that they had been right all along.

 

ISIS might have gotten hold of some of these buried shells when they overran the Samarra region in mid- to -late 2014, but reports of actual use (in Kobani, AFAIR) are still sketchy and unproven. In any case, unless ISIS have WMD-trained BDT experts, I predict that such shells would prove much more dangerous to them than to anyone else. There's a few French and Belgian expert BDT officers (not to mention Darwin Award-grade civvies) who have died or were severely injured handling such shells (mostly WW1 stock) in the past few decades who can attest to that, besides the US and Iraqi BDT team casualties post-2003.

 

According to David Kay, the former head of the coalition's hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi officials had given evidence that materials, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme had been moved across the border to Syria before the war, .

[L00b]

According to David Kay, the former head of the coalition's hunt for Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, Iraqi officials had given evidence that materials, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme had been moved across the border to Syria before the war, .

David Kay's statement and that Iraqi 'evidence' were debunked by Charles Duelfer between September 2004 and March 2005.

[loraward]

David Kay's statement and that Iraqi 'evidence' were debunked by Charles Duelfer between September 2004 and March 2005.

 

At a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Oct. 6, Charles Duelfer, an adviser to the CIA, did not rule out Saddam’s transfer of Iraqi missiles and weapons of mass destruction to Syria, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.

 

Duelfer agreed that a large amount of material had been transferred by Iraq to Syria before the March 2003 war.

 

http://www.wnd.com/2004/10/27051/#JvvmdbE6Rg7zPZwz.99

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/apr/27/20050427-121915-1667r/?page=all

Edited April 15, 2015 by loraward

[L00b]

At a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing Oct. 6, Charles Duelfer, an adviser to the CIA, did not rule out Saddam’s transfer of Iraqi missiles and weapons of mass destruction to Syria, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.

 

Duelfer agreed that a large amount of material had been transferred by Iraq to Syria before the March 2003 war.

 

http://www.wnd.com/2004/10/27051/#JvvmdbE6Rg7zPZwz.99

To the risk of stating the obvious, you can't ever prove a negative. That's the whole point of "not ruling out" anything, e.g. that Elvis might indeed come back, to cover one's bottom.

 

But as regards proving a positive...where in the above and in the link is the evidence that WMDs were part of this 'material'?

 

For that matter, where is any such evidence mentioned in the Duelfer Report (including addenda, still the highest authority as regards factual investigation into the matter to this day)?

 

Don't spend too long looking, though: there isn't any - that being the whole point.

[loraward]

To the risk of stating the obvious, you can't ever prove a negative. That's the whole point of "not ruling out" anything, e.g. that Elvis might indeed come back, to cover one's bottom.

 

But as regards proving a positive...where in the above and in the link is the evidence that WMDs were part of this 'material'?

 

For that matter, where is any such evidence mentioned in the Duelfer Report (including addenda, still the highest authority as regards factual investigation into the matter to this day)?

 

Don't spend too long looking, though: there isn't any - that being the whole point.

 

You claimed that Iraq didn't send WMD to Syria and that Charles Duelfer debunked David Kay's statement that they had.

 

In fact Charles Duelfer didn't debunk David Kay's statement that they had sent WMD to Syria and he did agree that a large amount of material had been transferred by Iraq to Syria before the March 2003 war.

 

So were is your evidence that WMD were not sent to Syria?

[Alan Ladd]

You claimed that Iraq didn't send WMD to Syria and that Charles Duelfer debunked David Kay's statement that they had.

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In fact Charles Duelfer didn't debunk David Kay's statement that they had sent WMD to Syria and he did agree that a large amount of material had been transferred by Iraq to Syria before the March 2003 war.

 

So were is your evidence that WMD were not sent to Syria?

 

Does it matter? The point is that Blair lied, his lies lead to war, a war that has killed 100s of thousands, and is still killing them today.

 

There were no WMD in Iraq. He had no evidence that there were and lied. Lies likely to endear him to Bush so that when he retired he would remain Americas great buddy and clean up on the lecture circuit.