Why is there so much animosity towards cyclists in Sheffield?

[JFKvsNixon]

Plus, of course, the cyclist may be totally focused on getting up the hill and surviving the journey and all the perils posed to vulnerable cyclists by the mess on the roads caused entirely by the fact that there are way too many motor vehicles than the system can cope with.

 

And, as as already been noted, it's not the cyclists problem. The problem is caused, again, by the solid line of parked motor vehicles which cuts the useable lane in half.

 

TOO MANY CARS ON THE ROAD is the true cause of this problem- without that line of parked vehicles taking up half the lane, that cyclist could be passed, easily and safely.

 

If you watch the video again you'll notice that the cars are parked within a designated parking area within the white lines. The cyclist is actually cycling within those lines.

[Cyclone]

Plus, of course, the cyclist may be totally focused on getting up the hill and surviving the journey and all the perils posed to vulnerable cyclists by the mess on the roads caused entirely by the fact that there are way too many motor vehicles than the system can cope with.

 

And, as as already been noted, it's not the cyclists problem. The problem is caused, again, by the solid line of parked motor vehicles which cuts the useable lane in half.

They aren't parked in the lane though, they're parked in a parking area aren't they?

[onewheeldave]

If you watch the video again you'll notice that the cars are parked within a designated parking area within the white lines. The cyclist is actually cycling within those lines.

 

Yes, the problem with having way more cars on the roads than the system can cope with has now got to the point where we're having to build car parks on the actual roads

 

OK, so yes, you're right, that road isn't being half used up by parked cars on the side of the road, but, by the new car park built on the side of the road instead

 

Same result though, half the usable road area taken up by cars, plus all the other narrowed lanes due to parked cars throughout the city, and, still, blind to all those parked cars that are the real reason for the hold ups, attention and blame gets directed towards the solitary cyclist.

 

WAKE UP dudes- ALL your delays and hold ups are due to the simple fact that there are way, way too many cars on the roads, than the roads can cope with.

 

That cyclist, who, from your limited perspective appears to be holding you up, is one less car on the roads at that time- he/she is, if you can get your brain and eyes functioning, part of the solution, not the problem.

 

If every one of the motorists who left their car in the 'car park' taking up half the lane, had instead gone out on a bike, you'd have zero problems passing them, as you'd have all the lane space currently taken up by cars.

[Cyclone]

It's not half the usable area, there was never a lane there that could be used by traffic.

 

Your point about too many cars isn't wrong, but you're not making it well by talking about the parking area in this example as if it used to be part of the carriageway.

 

Those motorists had left their cars at home, that's where they park when they're at home.

[backwardben]

well There are nine million bicycles in Beijing

That's a fact,

It's a thing we can't deny .wonder how they cope must be like a stampede at rush hour and they all have bells also

[steelerman]

it`s obvious cyclists don`t think they have to stop for red lights.this morning a cyclist sailed through a red light,a car nearly wiped him out then the cyclist has a go at car driver then gets off his bike and starts banging his hands on the car bonnet,brain dead or what.

[onewheeldave]

It's not half the usable area, there was never a lane there that could be used by traffic.

With a bit of work, that elongated car park could be converted to a very usable bit of road. Given the crisis our roads are in at the moment, I think it's vital to, rather than misdirecting the blame for holdups onto cyclists, start to see the real source of the problem, which is that many of the blocked roads routinely have bumper to bumper parked cars, taking up space which could be used for moving cars, and, for passing cyclists.

 

Your point about too many cars isn't wrong, but you're not making it well by talking about the parking area in this example as if it used to be part of the carriageway.

I'm not- you are. I've no idea of the history of where that parking space came from, and, it's not relevant to the point I'm making.

 

 

Those motorists had left their cars at home, that's where they park when they're at home.

Currently. The roads are only going to get more full, more jammed, more clogged, and, the only way change for the better can happen is if big changes are made, such as eliminating long lines of parked cars on main roads, as well as reducing car numbers in general.

[WalkleyIan]

Currently. The roads are only going to get more full, more jammed, more clogged, and, the only way change for the better can happen is if big changes are made, such as eliminating long lines of parked cars on main roads, as well as reducing car numbers in general.

 

 

The average car spends about 80% of the time parked at home, is parked elsewhere for about 16% of the time and is thus only actually in use (ie moving) for the remaining 4% of the time. -

 

source is

 

http://www.racfoundation.org/motoring-faqs/mobility#a5

[Cyclone]

it`s obvious cyclists don`t think they have to stop for red lights.this morning a cyclist sailed through a red light,a car nearly wiped him out then the cyclist has a go at car driver then gets off his bike and starts banging his hands on the car bonnet,brain dead or what.

 

Because all cyclists are identical, just like all motorists.

[Squiggs]

it`s obvious cyclists don`t think they have to stop for red lights.this morning a cyclist sailed through a red light,a car nearly wiped him out then the cyclist has a go at car driver then gets off his bike and starts banging his hands on the car bonnet,brain dead or what.

 

it's obvious drivers don't think they have to be sober; every day court reports show drink driving convictions

 

Therefore along your approach to logic, drivers are drunks