mjw47 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Our identity is that we're English, we have to put up with Paddy's Day, Australia Day, Pakistan Day, so this is our day English and proud shout it loud. Just saying In what way do you have to 'put up with' any of those days? Despite being half Irish I have rarely bothered to celebrate St Patrick's day. Occasionally I've been invited to a 'do' and gone, but at other times it's past me by with only the odd 'have a happy one' from my Irish relatives. My wife's birthday happens to fall on Burns Night so although neither of us is Scottish we've been to quite a few Caledonian evenings over the years. That's the point, it's a bit of a party, a bit of a celebration, but if you're not bothered or feel that it doesn't concern you then that's OK as well, it's hardly going to cause you any major trauma is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donotremove Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Our identity is that we're English, we have to put up with Paddy's Day, Australia Day, Pakistan Day, so this is our day English and proud shout it loud. Just saying We can all be English without having to be loud and proud surely? In most cases nationality is just an accident of birth. Any other national or saint's day makes no difference to my life whatsoever so I just get on with life without becoming bitter and twisted because somebody has a different nationality to me. Just saying like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan1-0 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 We can all be English without having to be loud and proud surely? In most cases nationality is just an accident of birth. Any other national or saint's day makes no difference to my life whatsoever so I just get on with life without becoming bitter and twisted because somebody has a different nationality to me. Just saying like. Considering you have "far more important and worthwhile things to do with my time than to dabble with trivial matters such as patriotism". ...youve been on this thread and the other one about pubs celebrating St George's Day....quite a lot... Just Saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So we celebrate a Syrian soldier and a fantasy creature? :hihi::hihi::hihi: Are you telling us the Wantley dragon is not real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donotremove Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Considering you have "far more important and worthwhile things to do with my time than to dabble with trivial matters such as patriotism". ...youve been on this thread and the other one about pubs celebrating St George's Day....quite a lot... Just Saying.... Indeed. Thanks for noticing, it means a lot to me. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Ah I see, thank you. Jingoistic nonsense in other words... Er.....I didn't say that All I mean is they identify as being Scottish or Welsh, which they do on the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bypassblade Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 We can all be English without having to be loud and proud surely? In most cases nationality is just an accident of birth. Any other national or saint's day makes no difference to my life whatsoever so I just get on with life without becoming bitter and twisted because somebody has a different nationality to me. Just saying like. Why can we not be loud & proud about being English, not being bitter jusy showing pride at being English which, according to you is a hanging offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I'm English and proud, accident of birth, foreign saint, mythical dragon or not, and the more negative certain people are about it the more nationalistic I and many others become ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw47 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Why can we not be loud & proud about being English, not being bitter jusy showing pride at being English which, according to you is a hanging offence. Unfortunately 'Englishness' has attracted an unsavoury bunch of close minded bigots who's idea of being English tends toward the ignorant jingoistic nonsense which tends to make them look ridiculous and embarrass everyone else. This should be resisted and pride in the country maintained without overbearing arrogance being part of it. Some numpties can't help over egging the situation when it comes to proclaiming their 'pride'. By doing this they show their complete lack of knowledge of the countries history and make other more knowledgeable English people reluctant to voice their genuine affection for the country for fear of being associated with the knuckle draggers. This is a shame, this country has many things to be proud of and whilst - like all Empires - it also has things to be ashamed of, that should not detract from a persons right to take pride in his/her countries achievements. Providing both aspects are acknowledged, and pomposity and jingoism are kept in check it should be perfectly acceptable and enjoyable to celebrate Englishness without any problem. Providing we can leave the Morris Dancers out of it of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrystottle Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 It always puzzles me that Scottish, Irish and Welsh nationalism seems to be more acceptable than English nationalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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