ez8004 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Scotland changed their electoral system, so now local authority employees can stand for election, but they must resign if elected. The Electoral Commission has recommended the same system for the UK. Turnout at the 2017 Scottish local elections was 46.9%, the turnout in the English local election of 2016 was around 34%; my guess would be that Scotland have PR - so there are no wasted votes and that increases turnout. The Tories will not change the voting system, because it keeps them in power. What a disgrace. Get your facts straight please. We voted no to changing the voting system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Get your facts straight please. We voted no to changing the voting system. The UK operates under FPTP, but the Scottish parliament have PR; I am confused by your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 The UK operates under FPTP, but the Scottish parliament have PR; I am confused by your response. Look up what happened in 2011 as we actually voted on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 Look up what happened in 2011 as we actually voted on this issue. The AV referendum, the worst type of PR; Cameron promised Clegg a vote on PR, and he stitched him up. More people vote in local elections in Scotland, because they have a better system; 46.9% voted in Scotlands local elections, 36.9% voted in England - in the same year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENG601PM Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 The AV referendum, the worst type of PR; Cameron promised Clegg a vote on PR, and he stitched him up. More people vote in local elections in Scotland, because they have a better system; 46.9% voted in Scotlands local elections, 36.9% voted in England - in the same year. The People still said no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Boot Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 What if a council employee is elected to a local government seat but then refuses to give up their employment? Or drags their feet, insisting they will leave but not doing so? Can they attend council meetings in an elected representative capacity, or just as an observer in the public gallery? Can the council dismiss the employee? Does a by-election have to take place to replace the elected council employee? This seems to open up a whole can of worms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 The People still said no. It was a resounding no. It wasn’t even close. There was no other version of AV really available because they didn’t have the option of increasing the number of MPs. If anything the size of the Commons wants to be reduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 What if a council employee is elected to a local government seat but then refuses to give up their employment? Or drags their feet, insisting they will leave but not doing so? Can they attend council meetings in an elected representative capacity, or just as an observer in the public gallery? Can the council dismiss the employee? Does a by-election have to take place to replace the elected council employee? This seems to open up a whole can of worms! I guess the elected person will be breaking election law, and the contest would be awarded to the second placed candidate. I believe these things would be discussed with the returning officer before the election; as some are required to give a long termination of contract notice, such as a teacher. But there are fewer state school teachers these days. ---------- Post added 04-02-2018 at 15:33 ---------- There was no other version of AV really available because they didn’t have the option of increasing the number of MPs. If anything the size of the Commons wants to be reduced. The Liberal Democrats supported reform of Westminster and the House of Lords, but the Conservatives blocked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ez8004 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I guess the elected person will be breaking election law, and the contest would be awarded to the second placed candidate. I believe these things would be discussed with the returning officer before the election; as some are required to give a long termination of contract notice, such as a teacher. But there are fewer state school teachers these days. ---------- Post added 04-02-2018 at 15:33 ---------- The Liberal Democrats supported reform of Westminster and the House of Lords, but the Conservatives blocked it. Not being completely honest here are we? Remember Labour, had the same views as the Tories when it came to electoral reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Thatcher brought in a law in the 80s to stop councillors from employing other councillors from other councils especially in what she deemed political roles. It doesn't affect that many people. People who work for their local council can't stand to be a councillor as it would be open to corruption. Councillors are employers and they could vote themselves nice pay rises and give themselves 52 weeks a year paid leave. It would be open to all kinds of scandal. Prisoners don't have the right to vote but people with criminal records aren't usually barred from voting. There are over 46 million people on the UK electoral register. As a pool it's not that small. Thereagain, people from the private sector are not behind the door when it comes to giving private contracts to their mates, are they.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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