Dyke Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Hi .. Is there anyone here who is interested in Roman Scripture ? .. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolyhead Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Try the universities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyke Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Punishment of Idolaters..... The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened While claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes. Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents. They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless and inventors of evil things. Although they know the just decree of God that all who practice such things deserve death, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. Anyone here know what it really means ? .. If not and you want to learn then we can go through it .. anyone ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You could try reading here http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/1.html and then make your mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Possibly the O P is referring to the philosophies and religions (writings) of the Roman Empire, rather than the Book of Romans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Possibly the O P is referring to the philosophies and religions (writings) of the Roman Empire, rather than the Book of Romans? Looks very much like a version of Romans 1 from 1:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyke Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I meant the meaning behind it .. what Paul meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Looks very much like a version of Romans 1 from 1:18 Yes, although Paul would be familiar with their religions. 1:18-25 deals with pagan religion, 26-32 deals with pagan morality. New Bible Commentary (1954), professor F Davidson. Edited May 1, 2015 by carosio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyke Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) Let's go through it ..... '' The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. '' What Paul is meaning is when God is given the opportunity to reveal himself, he will against everyone but mainly those in charge, those at the highest level, the Elite if ya want to say, that they purposely suppress the truth by their evilness and they know the real truth but instead they lie and because they lie, everyone lies but unknown to them.... Next bit .... '' For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them '' Meaning in what you see, like wildlife, trees, grass, flowers, everything natural and so God made it evident to them. '' Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; '' Meaning his invisible being, which is energy, ya cant see it, his energy which created the so called Big Bang which made Earth and so what is known of God is understood and perceived in what he has made. '' for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened '' What Paul meant was because the Government were teaching lies, ( everyone at first believed in the true God ) the people were believing it and people became more ungodly and so had heard of the word God but because they did'nt believe in him, they did'nt give him thanks and so they became vain in their reasoning which people are today which darkens your senses, in away where you become selfish. '' While claiming to be wise, they became fools '' Because as i mentioned up above that everyone lies, they don't know how to tell the truth and they don't believe in one truth of Christianity, and even Science doesnt believe in God , they teach everything but ... and so while claiming to wise, they became fools. '' and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes. '' People exchanged the God who lives forever to an image of mortal man, like they worship for instance, footballers, singers, people follow millionaires, hoping they can be rich too. In other Countries, people worship animals. '' Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen '' Because when people believed a book that was written by man, they started to worship the creature, like Moses rather than the creator who is God and who is blessed forever Amen. '' And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. '' Like mentioned above, they didn't seem fit to acknowledge God as they believed lies and so followed lies, speaking lies. '' They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents. They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless and inventors of evil things. '' It lists all the emotions that now go through humans, all because they followed a lie. Before when people knew God, there wasn't any of this which is mentioned above.. also inventors of evil things, like Nuclear weapons, drugs, the list is endless, all created by the Government. '' Although they know the just decree of God that all who practice such things deserve death, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them. '' Means that the Governments deserve death because their doing evil things, ya know the Elite, like the Peadophile ring, its people like them who control England and they give approval to those who practice them like the public. When Paul says they deserve death, he doesnt mean go out and kill them but that when they eventually die of whatever cause then they will have deserved it, as because when people knew God, they did'nt die . ---------- Post added 01-05-2015 at 15:25 ---------- this is a letter what Paul wrote to Titus warning him about the liars who go round peoples houses... ''' Titus, a true Son in our common faith.. For this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking, and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you '' '' For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision, Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake '' ( meaning for money ) ---------- Post added 01-05-2015 at 15:30 ---------- '' One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, ' The cretians are always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in faith. Not giving heed to to Jewish Fables, and the commandments of men, that turn from the truth '' The Greeks were following the right God, with Greece being the home to democracy but they were believing the Torah and so they started lying. Men teaching them that is not the truth. Now everyone in the World are unknown to them following lies as they as Paul says '' No one believes in the one truth of Christianity. '' So basically Jews following it first but unknown to them its lies, then the Greeks at the time believed it too... Edited May 1, 2015 by Dyke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Blimey! There's me getting it wrong as usual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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