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Guest makapaka
3 hours ago, Bilge said:

Clearly the food side would need to be a key thing, allied to quality ales. Something like the Rising Sun maybe.  There isn't a decent pub to walk to locally. Sportsman is the best of a bad bunch. Tavern is poor, so is Shiny Sheff.  Crookes/Broomhill/Ranmoor/Nether Green are a bit of a hike away for most people. I can't believe there is not a market for a decent pub in Crosspool. The Plough was always a bit rubbish before (like the Punch Bowl, York, Rising Sun, Highcliffe etc etc were) but it needn't be in future given a bit of investment and imagination.

 

Pubs are often deliberately run down to maximise profit for the building's owners by development of the site. It's nowt to do with whether the pub performs well or not, or might do in the future if run differently. It's simply about amount of profit from the site as a building plot, usually for residential use, versus profit as a pub. It may be a good business as a pub but can still get demolished if it makes more as flats.

 

On that basis  should we demolish all old pubs or is there a line to be drawn somewhere?

No we shouldn’t demolish all old pubs - and I hope this one doesn’t get demolished.

 

You just mentioned the shiny there tho - do you go in there?

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1 hour ago, makapaka said:

No we shouldn’t demolish all old pubs - and I hope this one doesn’t get demolished.

 

You just mentioned the shiny there tho - do you go in there?

No, mainly because it's not very good but also it's not local for me. If it was any good then I would make an effort to visit more often. If I lived near it then I would go in despite it not being much cop. I sometimes go in the Sportsman and the Crosspool Tavern simply because they are near, even though I'm not a big fan of either.

 

Ideally I'd have several decent pubs to choose from that I could walk to in 5 minutes! I've seldom lived anywhere like that though. 

 

 

 

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Guest makapaka
1 hour ago, Bilge said:

No, mainly because it's not very good but also it's not local for me. If it was any good then I would make an effort to visit more often. If I lived near it then I would go in despite it not being much cop. I sometimes go in the Sportsman and the Crosspool Tavern simply because they are near, even though I'm not a big fan of either.

 

Ideally I'd have several decent pubs to choose from that I could walk to in 5 minutes! I've seldom lived anywhere like that though. 

 

 

 

Fair enough.

 

im the same as you - there are pubs local to me that I’m not a massive fan of - but I go in them now and again just because I’d rather they were there than not there.

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Any idea if a decision has been made on this? Maybe it has been delayed again.

 

It has recently had graffiti sprayed on both the screens around the builders' junk, the parked cars and the stonework of the building itself. The words still visible on the building may have been done by kids judging by the language used. I wonder if it's all meant to make the building look more 'derelict' and therefore justify its demolition?

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Planning decision delayed by the virus.

 

Enforcement action taken earlier this month to make him tidy up the site a bit (unauthorised change of use to builder's yard). So the portacabin and cars without reg plates have gone. It still looks a total mess though and the building continues to deteriorate. 

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It's a classic case of use it or lose it. The Plough used to be a thriving pub, then people's habits changed and the customers moved on, died, or just drank at home. New homes are by far and away the best future for this site because there isn't a fairy godmother coming along to turn it back into a pub any time soon. 

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