Where does Sheffield go now

[Cyclone]

Look at Sheffield City centre which is anti-car and full of cheap tacky shops. Rotherham is slightly better for cars but the same cheap tacky shops which attract cheap tacky customers. They usually walk along constantly spitting on the floor and speaking in a non English language. I, like many ordinary Sheffielders, go to Meadowhall and if I fancy a change I would go to Leeds, Barnsley, Doncaster in that order before Sheffield or Rotherham. I am sick to death of the ignorant people in the city centre spitting on the floor, dragging a gaggle of unruly kids which the tax payer is supporting and barge old people and other pedestrians out of the way. On top of this you have the street drinkers sleeping in doorways which stink of urine, aggressive beggers and don,t even get me started on the smack heads making their way to and from the clinics on Devonshire St, Rockingham, St and Fitzwilliam St. The cops and ambassadors just walk past due to the PC brigade they are scared of offending some tree hugger in case they challenge the people above. Remember Sheffield is the capitol of the Yorkshire Socialist republic, where other cities ( Leeds ) have moved on Sheffield is still stuck in the 70s. Sorry about the rant but you touched a nerve. No decent shop ( Harvey Nics went to Leeds ) will touch Sheffield because it is a dump, the nearest they will come is Meadowhall.

 

You know an awful lot about the city centre for someone who never goes there.

 

I went in Harvey Nicks the other day, it's an awful shop, unless you want to spend £400 on a bad looking t-shirt.

 

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Ricky there has been loads of regeneration, all of the wrong type. There are more one way streets, bus gates/lanes, no entry signs than you can shake a stick at. If you get into Sheffield the cost of parking is stupid, hence people go to MH. Leeds straight into the city centre then reasonable parking, clean pedestrian shopping areas with hardly a cheap tacky shop in sight. Even Barnsley rough and ready that it is still outweighs Sheffield.

 

The parking in Leeds city centre costs more than Sheffield.

 

And redevelopment in Sheffield includes the Peace Gardens, the Winter Gardens, Leopold Square, Orchard Square, the new Market Building and so on.

 

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One of Sheffield's problems IMHO is that it, (city planners???) has focused on the student population. Not that I have anything against students but they are very transient, and have little money.

The city needs broader appeal, especially in the city centre, and has others have pointed out, that hasn't really happened in the sense of encouraging business growth.

Manchester has 2 big football teams, where are ours?

It hasn't happened overnight, I left Sheffield decades ago because its unfriendly towards business, (maybe that's where Ed gets it from), so changing the problems won't happen over night by ant stretch.

I have also spent a lot of time in Brum, another industrialised city, but like Manchester it has developed, shown flexibility, over the years, changing with the times.

 

How do you imagine town planning happens? Because I suspect it bears little resemblance to reality.

[*Belle*]

Belle wish I was bright enough or had enough money to do the things you suggest but I am not bright enough or rich enough. That's the point , investors do not come because the city centre is not attractive enough and that's the councils fault who have had/do have the money to change it.

 

You admit that you're not bright and you've not a lot of money, yet you grumble about not having a local Harvey Nichols....... come on lad, get a grip. Don't under-sell yourself, plenty of unqualified folk have started with nowt and have gone on to make fortunes. After all, Mr Harvey started out selling cloth from the front room in a terraced house.

[Mister M]

Wish it was stuck in the seventies we had the Indus ,the Penthouse,the buccaneer, the fiesta plus cheap bus fares, beer at ten new pence a pint fags about the same for ten and some great summers,its a pity time travel will never be possible.

 

It's when Britain last had Socialism - fab time had by all

[salou4]

Apart from all the dead people laying around not getting buried.

 

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How do you imagine town planning happens? Because I suspect it bears little resemblance to reality.

 

I'm just guessing but I suspect in Sheffield's case a load of people put blindfolds on then shove pins in a map, see what they come up with. Fingers crossed of course.

 

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So, all the people moaning about they're perception of the lack of business in the city, what do you propose to do about it? Are you going to actually do something? Develop something? Build something? Invent something? Manufacture something? Sell something? Export something?

 

Or are you waiting for someone else to do it for you, whilst you sit and moan about it?

 

No, we all go away and do that stuff, we just do it somewhere with less hassle....like Manchester.

[Anna B]

Sheffield people are great, the city has huge potential, what we need now is brilliant, dynamic leadership. I don't care which party they are as long as they have vision, a firm pair of hands, a knack for promotion and publicity, and the ability to build a strong team around them.

 

We need a Boris!

[Jonny5]

It's when Britain last had Socialism - fab time had by all

Three day week, winter of discontent, black outs, country held to ransom by Unions.

 

Oh for those halcyon days again!

[handypandy]

One of Sheffield's problems IMHO is that it, (city planners???) has focused on the student population. Not that I have anything against students but they are very transient, and have little money.

 

Don't kid yourself. From a recent conversation with five Malaysian students in one household, over here for two years, course fees and subsistence (incidentally, paid by their government) amounted to a fraction under a quarter of a million pounds.

 

 

 

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[Cyclone]

Don't kid yourself. From a recent conversation with five Malaysian students in one household, over here for two years, course fees and subsistence (incidentally, paid by their government) amounted to a fraction under a quarter of a million pounds.

 

 

 

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My top of the head maths brings that down to 16k/annum for each student after fee's. They live well these foreign students. I survived on 4 or 5 k a year at uni, including paying my rent from that.

[Frayava]

I mean with new buildings in the City Centre. I know there's a long way to go but to say Sheffield is stuck in the seventies is taking it too far.

 

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The Moor area is being updated further, Devonshire Green and the area around Sheffield Rail Station.

 

People love to moan!

 

I'm grateful I don't live in a place like Slough or Luton.

 

Luton and Slough are not one of the top 5-10 most populated cities. They are not competing with Leeds, Manchester, Liverpool etc.

 

These cities have lovely areas and cultural centres as you refer to but just as a quick example- compare Sheffield Train station to Liverpool Lime Street, Manchester Piccadilly

 

they have forward thinking planners, visionaries, businessmen who attract money, people to their cities.

 

Take Liverpool: they build Liverpool 1 smack bang in the middle of the city attracting people into the centre, spending money, using the hotels, bars, restaurants, food outlets - Sheffield allowed Meadowhall to do the exact opposite - sucked the life out of the centre and sent it into what I fear is terminal decline.

 

Sheffield is beginning to rapidly fall behind these cities and I cannot see any improvement.

[evil woman]

 

I always thought it was such a shame that Sheffield didn't get the northern centre of the BBC like Salford did. Greater Manchester is quite an affluent area, and Sheffield could've really done with the investment. Still what's done is done.

 

Perhaps Sheffield had nothing to offer.

Edited May 7, 2015 by evil woman