loraward Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 And you honestly think that the tories will do that???? No way, they will just take the money, hand it to the rich and run to a tax haven If you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 And you honestly think that the tories will do that???? No way, they will just take the money, hand it to the rich and run to a tax haven this is just a weird post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Why does all new housing have to be on greenbelt land whats wrong with brownfield sites? Nothing. The reality is there needs to be a mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Nothing. The reality is there needs to be a mix. If commercial or industrial land is not needed, the country will go bust. The population is growing, and the only land that we are meant to build on is land that was once used for industry. How much industry has closed down over the past decade? Or perhaps industry build on greenbelt land, where has all this brownfield land come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 where has all this brownfield land come from? Sorry, cant resist.. From the Torys s**tt*ng on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loraward Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Nothing. The reality is there needs to be a mix. England has space for at least 1 million homes on brownfield land, so enough land to build for the next five years, then what? http://www.cpre.org.uk/media-centre/latest-news-releases/item/3784-england-has-space-for-at-least-1-million-homes-on-brownfield-land Some of this land will also be needed for industry, shops, office blocks, that will a larger population will need. More people consume more food so we will also need to increase food production, so more farm land will be used. As the global population increases we won't be able to rely on food imports because the countries from which we import will also need more of the food they grow. Having spare capacity can save us from the future consequences of over population in other countries. What do we then do when all the brown field sites are built on and all the land available farm land is in full use, or is that not our problem, is it a problem for future generations to deal with? Edited May 28, 2015 by loraward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 If commercial or industrial land is not needed, the country will go bust. The population is growing, and the only land that we are meant to build on is land that was once used for industry. How much industry has closed down over the past decade? Or perhaps industry build on greenbelt land, where has all this brownfield land come from? Local boroughs and councils still regularly expand their boundaries. There are houses in my parents village which are built where I remember fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The population is increasing. House building is decreasing. The population has been reduced massively in previous years by wars and disease. Now we have not had major wars resulting in mass deaths and also people are living longer. We have mass immigration on a scale massively larger than ever before. I do not think councils want the responsibility of managing large housing stocks any longer. Selling off houses by councils and housing associations will not make any great difference to the alleged shortage of houses for rent. The equation is simple, reduce the number of people requiring housing, build more houses for rent, or build more houses for sale. As in my opinion the days of mass council housing are over that leaves the other two options. The government is reducing immigration and probably stopping family allowance after the second child which may reduce the population. New houses for sale must be sold at a realistic price even though this would cause problems for those who bought at inflated prices which were considered realistic at the time. Housing similar to the old prefabs could be built very cheaply as they were after WW 2 and housed many families happily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 In WW2 the UK lost less than 1% of it's population... That was 70 years ago, since then there have been no wars that have had a measurable impact on the population of the UK. Reducing immigration won't reduce the population, it might stabilise it at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The government is reducing immigration. The Government has increased immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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