"I've paid into the system!"

[Chris_Sleeps]

And by the way - she works from 7am - 1pm Monday to Friday! do the Maths.

She can't even use her free bus pass that early.

[Chelle-82]

She can't even use her free bus pass that early.

 

She gets a lift off of another cleaner who lives near her.

[salou4]

When I've had training in the past, it's not been uncommon to sign a contract stating that if you leave within X months that you will be liable to repay a % of the training cost.

Could the NHS not do this? (If there's a real problem of people qualifying and then immediately leaving to work entirely in the private sector, which I'm not sure there is).

 

That's an excellent post.

Considering we have more people than ever going to Uni, it staggers me that we aren't training enough GPs, etc.

Is it beyond the realms of common sense and joined up thinking that we have a system where employers, (such as the NHS), "sponsor" an individual to go to Uni, paying their fees, in return for the individual agreeing to work for the employer for x amount of time after qualification, on a slightly reduced rate maybe, and with the option to buy out.

I know other sectors do similar things, why not the NHS?

[Cyclone]

Surely the Inland Revenue makes a considerable "profit" from it's tax collecting activities....

 

And I'm sure the Royal Mint turns a handsome profit. I mean it literally makes money hand over fist (but it may be fairer to class it as a company rather than a public service)

 

HMRC doesn't make a profit any more than my sending an invoice is a way of making a profit.

Unless government actually does something or makes something that produces value, it's a cost centre, not a profit centre.

 

And by printing money it devalues the currency against other currencies and against commodities. So in effect printing money just takes it from the pockets of everyone else who HAS any money.

 

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That's an excellent post.

Considering we have more people than ever going to Uni, it staggers me that we aren't training enough GPs, etc.

Is it beyond the realms of common sense and joined up thinking that we have a system where employers, (such as the NHS), "sponsor" an individual to go to Uni, paying their fees, in return for the individual agreeing to work for the employer for x amount of time after qualification, on a slightly reduced rate maybe, and with the option to buy out.

I know other sectors do similar things, why not the NHS?

 

The restriction on medical degree's comes from the universities I think. I've read about it in the past.

The NHS don't need to do that of course, because almost all people who finish medical degree's HAVE to work for the NHS for a good number of years (7, 9, depends on what they specialise in) just to actually fully qualify.

[Obelix]

See post #159...

[Cyclone]

I think we are missing a "tongue in cheek" smiley on this board....

 

Fair enough

[psynuk]

Trivia: the only profitable public department across the entire public service (as in making an actual profit in net terms, no accounting hocus-pocusing) is the relatively obscure/little-known/tucked in a tiny corner of the public awareness Patent Office, due to the renewal fees it collects annually for patents, trademarks and designs (which are effectively a tax), the aggregate amount of which (comfortably-) exceeds its annual budget allocation. It is the only public service to actually make money for the Exchequer in the true sense of the expression.

 

i'm off to google but I reckon the dvla might well be a profit making enterprise...

 

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22 million profit in 07/08.... not bad for bureaucrats