Why do people object to Call to Prayer?

[charmer]

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Talk about contradicting yourself.

 

He hasn't. It would be annoying at times.

 

It should be replaced by text to prayer. Or the worshippers should just remember what time prayers are

[Cyclone]

I'm not wrong, in each of those countries there are practicing Christians, therefor the state hasn't stopped them from being Christians, the state does however place restrictions on them.

 

You are wrong. In those states it is illegal for a citizen to be a Christian.

 

You've been well and truly proven to be wrong this time.

[Flanker7]

You are wrong. In those states it is illegal for a citizen to be a Christian.

 

You've been well and truly proven to be wrong this time.

 

Why do you bother with this? It's not getting us anywhere. The differences only matter to the pedants.

 

AND

 

Even I can see the coach and horses coming through this reply - You don't have to be a citizen to be in a country.

[Cyclone]

You don't have to be a citizen?

 

Are you trying to claim that freedom of religion is fulfilled by having the ability to leave? That's nonsense for a start. But now imagine it's North Korea, where being a Christian is illegal. How are you going to a) stop being a citizen, or b) otherwise have freedom of religion?

[donotremove]

Whenever I've been in a muslim country you expect to hear wailing from the mosc every five hours or so,its their religion it's their country they are muslims I actually quite like listening to it ...but this is England we are a christian country, we are a very tolerant country and respect other peoples religions,but to have the call to prayer bellowing out every five hours or so is a bit to much to expect us as christians to tolerate,our church bells only ring out on sundays anyway not every five hours.

 

What is it exactly that you are objecting to? You've stated in your post that you actually quite like listening to it so what is the problem?

 

Also why is it a bit too much to expect as Christians? Should Christians not be subjected to it? What about Jews and Hindus?

 

So many questions...

[loraward]

You are wrong. In those states it is illegal for a citizen to be a Christian.

 

You've been well and truly proven to be wrong this time.

 

North Korea's constitution guarantees freedom of religion provided it does not undermine the state.

 

Although North Korea's constitution provides for "freedom of religious belief", there is essentially no freedom of practice or conscience.

 

Tucked between trees and paddy fields in a quiet suburb in the west of Pyongyang, Chilgol Church is one of four state-operated churches in the capital of a country that espouses freedom of religion.

 

In recent months, the Protestant church has been renovated - its rusted iron roof replaced with new tiles, and its faded brown brick walls repainted yellow.

 

A United Nations report earlier this year cited estimates that between 200,000 and 400,000 of North Korea's 24 million people are Christians.

The number is impossible to verify because most Christians cannot worship openly.

 

So like the UK they have freedom of religion with restrictions, quite a few more restriction than the UK, but the UK does still restrict religious freedom.

 

http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/religion-in-the-north-korean-constitution

 

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_North_Korea_%281972%29

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/12/us-northkorea-religion-idUSKBN0GC1Z220140812

Edited May 20, 2015 by loraward

[nikki-red]

If youre going to copy and paste quotes etc, please state the sources.

 

Thank you.

[redwhine]

Whenever I've been in a muslim country you expect to hear wailing from the mosc every five hours or so,its their religion it's their country they are muslims I actually quite like listening to it ...but this is England we are a christian country, we are a very tolerant country and respect other peoples religions,but to have the call to prayer bellowing out every five hours or so is a bit to much to expect us as christians to tolerate,our church bells only ring out on sundays anyway not every five hours.

 

http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/06/new-research--49-percent-have-no-religion-anglican-church-collapse-continues-islam-increases-ten-fold-since-1983

 

"The proportion of people saying that they are Anglican has fallen quite dramatically in the last ten years, coinciding with a rise in people saying they are not religious," NatCen noted.

The percentage of non-religious people has increased from 31% in 1983, to 49% in 2014. Conversely, the share belonging to the Church of England has fallen from 40% to 17% over the same time period.

This means that by-far the single largest group of people is the non-religious. Based on estimates from the Office of National Statistics, there are 24.7 million non-believers in the UK. The next single-highest group is Anglicans on 8.6 million. However, according to the NatCen figures, the "nones" have outnumbered Anglicans since at least 1994- when there were over 2 million more non-believers.

[cassity]

North Korea's constitution guarantees freedom of religion provided it does not undermine the state.

 

Although North Korea's constitution provides for "freedom of religious belief", there is essentially no freedom of practice or conscience.

 

Tucked between trees and paddy fields in a quiet suburb in the west of Pyongyang, Chilgol Church is one of four state-operated churches in the capital of a country that espouses freedom of religion.

 

In recent months, the Protestant church has been renovated - its rusted iron roof replaced with new tiles, and its faded brown brick walls repainted yellow.

 

A United Nations report earlier this year cited estimates that between 200,000 and 400,000 of North Korea's 24 million people are Christians.

The number is impossible to verify because most Christians cannot worship openly.

 

So like the UK they have freedom of religion with restrictions, quite a few more restriction than the UK, but the UK does still restrict religious freedom.

 

http://berkleycenter.georgetown.edu/essays/religion-in-the-north-korean-constitution

 

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_North_Korea_%281972%29

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/12/us-northkorea-religion-idUSKBN0GC1Z220140812

 

So NK doesn't have a propaganda ministry? Let me tell you, it's propaganda machine puts the Nazi's to shame All because you are so wrong and lack humility.

 

" A nice new tiled roof"..you up for sucker of the month?

 

You've been well and truly proven to be wrong this time.

 

Sorry, to much latitude. Proven wrong so many times and under different user names and genders.

[loraward]

So NK doesn't have a propaganda ministry? Let me tell you, it's propaganda machine puts the Nazi's to shame All because you are so wrong and lack humility.

 

" A nice new tiled roof"..you up for sucker of the month?

 

 

 

Sorry, to much latitude. Proven wrong so many times and under different user names and genders.

 

Or you are sucker of the month for believing everything bad you hear about NK.