Cyclone Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Let me quote that question for you, give me a few seconds. So would you report a car theft? Look at that twisty, loaded question, no wonder you answered "no". I tricked you into it, I can see now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) You could always call crime stoppers from a phone box... ---------- Post added 12-05-2015 at 15:28 ---------- I'm heartened to see that 82% of the people who've taken the time to vote would report serious crimes. I hope I don't know any of the 18% that wouldn't, as I find their attitude to be concerning. Again which 'serious crimes'? or do you think witnessing a rape is the same as seeing a burnt out car on a dodgy estate? And if you dont report the latter, does that make you immoral? Edited May 12, 2015 by ubermaus .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilburrUK Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Okay, point taken. It's just people who claim that often overlook the loss of privacy. Too emotional and little evidence presented in a debate like this.! No kidding, you're jumping to wild and unsubstantiated conclusions left, right and centre ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Again which 'serious crimes'? or do you think witnessing a rape is the same as seeing a burnt out car on a dodgy estate? One is a crime taking place against a person and the other is a fly tipping offence. But why do you find it so difficult to understand what serious crime means? I wouldn't report a burnt out car, I would report a burning car, I would report any crime against a person, I'd report a car theft. Why wouldn't you? Why would you only report an assault grudgingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) Let me quote that question for you, give me a few seconds. Look at that twisty, loaded question, no wonder you answered "no". I tricked you into it, I can see now. question: which 'serious crimes'? or do you think witnessing a rape is the same as seeing a burnt out car on a dodgy estate? And if you dont report the latter, does that make you immoral? ---------- Post added 12-05-2015 at 15:42 ---------- One is a crime taking place against a person and the other is a fly tipping offence. But why do you find it so difficult to understand what serious crime means? I wouldn't report a burnt out car, I would report a burning car, I would report any crime against a person, I'd report a car theft. Why wouldn't you? Why would you only report an assault grudgingly? I understand what 'serious crimes' means. But all crimes are not equal - clearly. Where did I use the word 'grudingly'??? youve said that twice now. quote: "assault? yes. If I had to" not the same as 'grudingly'. Edited May 12, 2015 by ubermaus ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Why are you repeating yourself when I've already answered you? And why am I answering your questions when you're ignorning mine? Why wouldn't you? Why would you only report an assault grudgingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) I think it does matter. Not all crimes are the sameIndeed, and I believe that's why they were qualified as "serious" crime, with examples provided such as "mugging, assault, car theft, arson, burglary", all for the convenience of the hard of understanding and some you may have a reason not to report.If you can't report it on the spot, there is nothing to stop you from getting to a safe place/distance and reporting it then. As for not reporting it at all...well, that's for you to debate with your conscience (you will note that I grant you the assumed possession of such ). Just don't forget not to be a hypocrite bemoaning others who should fail to report a crime that affects you (not that I wish any such thing on you, of course) or, for that matter, bemoaning the growing self-centering, indifference and individualism in society (slowly following your example, I fear). Personally, I see this as a symptom of Gvt-interfered and -assisted living, stripping away individual and, gradually, collective responsibility. Edited May 12, 2015 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Rights, but not responsibilities. The right to be protected from crime, but no responsibility to assist the police in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermaus Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Why are you repeating yourself when I've already answered you? And why am I answering your questions when you're ignorning mine? Why wouldn't you? Why would you only report an assault grudgingly? Where did I use the word 'grudingly'??? youve said that twice now. quote: "assault? yes. If I had to" not the same as 'grudingly'. Grudgingly suggests a reluctance to report the crime...I didnt say that so you are basing your argument on something that wasnt said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Rights, but not responsibilities.Precisely what I meant with "Personally, I see this as a symptom of Gvt-interfered and -assisted living, stripping away individual and, gradually, collective responsibility". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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