blake Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Michael Foot may have been a hopeless candidate and a bit too left-wing for the voters tastes, but nobody questioned his intellectual rigour and also that he was of ministerial calibre. He had run government departments prior to being elected Labour party leader. Corbyn has got nothing like that to show. He has no experience and if he does get elected leader, Cameron will run rings round him at the despatch box to such an extent that it will become obvious to everyone, even him and his closest supporters, that he's not up to it, Which means some people in the higher echelons of the Labour party and not just those who are also running for leader now, could well be hatching plans right now, to run in another leadership election in maybe 2017, or 2018. but with it being so difficult to get rid of even a terrible and totally unelectable Labour leader like Corbyn will be these days, even that is not so straightforward. The party might end up being stuck with Corbyn because no-one is able to challenge him, so if Corbyn is elected leader he might end up being persuaded to resign like Ian Duncan Smith was as the only way to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Originally Posted by banjodeano View Post recent public opinion polls • He supports a publicly run NHS, a position supported by 84% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the railways, a position backed by 66% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the energy companies, a position supported by 68% of the public. • He believes the Royal Mail should be publicly owned, a position supported by 67% of the public. • He supports rent controls, a position supported by 60% of the public. • He has long pushed for the withdrawal of British troops from Afghanistan, a position favoured by 82% of the public. he will Make Labour Back to Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummonds Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Originally Posted by banjodeano View Post recent public opinion polls • He supports a publicly run NHS, a position supported by 84% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the railways, a position backed by 66% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the energy companies, a position supported by 68% of the public. • He believes the Royal Mail should be publicly owned, a position supported by 67% of the public. • He supports rent controls, a position supported by 60% of the public. • He has long pushed for the withdrawal of British troops from Afghanistan, a position favoured by 82% of the public. he will Make Labour Back to Labour. labour in opposition supported by 72% of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 all common sense policies. Even the more dubious ones like renationalising services - be great to just get it back into public hands even if not highly profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 all common sense policies. Even the more dubious ones like renationalising services - be great to just get it back into public hands even if not highly profitable. How you going to finance these? You've already spent about 10x the trident saving with your nurse increases. ---------- Post added 11-08-2015 at 13:59 ---------- borrow Anyway, enough nonsense for today. Have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 How you going to finance these? You've already spent about 10x the trident saving with your nurse increases. ---------- Post added 11-08-2015 at 13:59 ---------- borrow Anyway, enough nonsense for today. Have a good day. yes, enough nonsense already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Michael Foot may have been a hopeless candidate and a bit too left-wing for the voters tastes, but nobody questioned his intellectual rigour and also that he was of ministerial calibre. He had run government departments prior to being elected Labour party leader. Corbyn has got nothing like that to show. He has no experience and if he does get elected leader, Cameron will run rings round him at the despatch box to such an extent that it will become obvious to everyone, even him and his closest supporters, that he's not up to it, Which means some people in the higher echelons of the Labour party and not just those who are also running for leader now, could well be hatching plans right now, to run in another leadership election in maybe 2017, or 2018. but with it being so difficult to get rid of even a terrible and totally unelectable Labour leader like Corbyn will be these days, even that is not so straightforward. The party might end up being stuck with Corbyn because no-one is able to challenge him, so if Corbyn is elected leader he might end up being persuaded to resign like Ian Duncan Smith was as the only way to get rid of him. He comes over as a bit chippy and argumentative. I think he'd lose his temper when under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He comes over as a bit chippy and argumentative. I think he'd lose his temper when under pressure. If you are talking about me then it is a totally unwarranted personal attack. However if you are talking about Corbyn then I would agree and also, has anyone else noticed he has no sense of humour? Can't see him cracking too many jokes, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker7 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 recent public opinion polls • He supports a publicly run NHS, a position supported by 84% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the railways, a position backed by 66% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the energy companies, a position supported by 68% of the public. • He believes the Royal Mail should be publicly owned, a position supported by 67% of the public. • He supports rent controls, a position supported by 60% of the public. • He has long pushed for the withdrawal of British troops from Afghanistan, a position favoured by 82% of the public. he will Make Labour Back to Labour. In favour of mother hood - 100% wants world peace - 100% He supports British teams in the world cup - 100% All of these were probably the same BEFORE the general election . . . . but will that make them vote for him in a general election. Address the reasons why Cameron got elected (Lord help us.). . . . . . . . . is JC different than Milliband? or is he the same . . only more so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 First Milliband and now Corbyn... Did Thatcher plant long term sleeper moles in the Labour party in the 1980's to make them unelectable in later years you think? One things for sure - if you elect Corbyn the Labour party will either devolve to an ineffectual pressure group, or half the party will desert and form real Labour, or join the Lib Dems, or something. All countries need an effective opposition. Corbyn doesn't even provide that. For the sake of everything please don't vote him in. Hell it's almost worth paying my money and bunging Kendall a vote to keep him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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