Should Labour move right or left?

[DrNorm]

I think perhaps Corbyn is concentrating on putting his message across to potential supporters in the party

 

... it makes sense to enthuse his supporters, but he must also address other party members.

 

If the party is to stand any chance of reuniting and being credible at the next election, those who are backing another candidate must have sufficient in common with him if he does become leader. We don't want the divisions (go on click it!) caused by the leadership election to extend to the next general election.

 

• So, although I was disappointed in his campaign leaflet
  
• and I haven't been to any of his meetings (has he been to Sheffield?)
  
• because the media hasn't highlighted his policies towards business (even in the link provided by janie48 )
  
• I've been oblivious to the fact that he's pro-business
  

This is a pleasant surprise.

 

I hope the other candidates can equally surprise the Corbynites if their fortunes turn for the better ...

Edited August 16, 2015 by DrNorm

[Eric Arthur]

It doesn't matter who the articles are written for. They are getting published.

That is a strange thing to say because your whole point seems to be based on who is reading the articles.

 

Please link to some of these articles written by right wing press who are scared of Corbyn.

[banjodeano]

but the ones who got a third class degree in sociology or surfing technology are being told to vote for Andy Burnham by the Daily Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/back-andy-burnham-next-labour-6255365

I am still waiting for Andy to explain why he is making a fiddle on his expenses...

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/andy-burnham-claims-rent-for-flat-moments-away-from-another-he-already-owns-10273311.html

[I1L2T3]

That is a strange thing to say because your whole point seems to be based on who is reading the articles.

 

Please link to some of these articles written by right wing press who are scared of Corbyn.

 

Quite simply they are attacking the man, day in and day out. Just look at any paper. Any day.

 

Yes Labour would be a mess if he wins but the right wing press absolutely do not want the leader of the second biggest party to challenge on the national stage everything they stand for. Somebody who opposes them who says what he thinks and believes what he says rather than crap put together by highly paid consultants.

 

They would rather have the wishy-washy consensus politics with Labour still desperately trying to be a party for big business.

 

A bit of muck raking Daily Mail style

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199550/Take-No-Jeremy-liked-night-eating-cold-beans-cat-called-Harold-Wilson-Corbyn-s-wife-reveals.html

 

Corbyn's wife e ploits poor Mexican workers

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199539/Wake-smell-coffee-comrade-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-wife-sells-fair-trade-beans-sourced-happy-workers-Mexico-Guess-live-shacks-dirt-poor-exhausted-angry.html

 

Corbyn accused of being anti-semetic:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11804288/Jeremy-Corbyn-accused-of-being-anti-semitic-as-Labour-grandees-round-on-hard-Left-leadership-frontrunner.html

 

Just a few examples. If he is such a no-hoper then why pay so much attention to him?

[blake]

Just a few examples. If he is such a no-hoper then why pay so much attention to him?

 

 

because they're newspapers, mate and Labour having such a no-hoper as Corbyn in the pole position to be their next leader is a story and sells papers. And who buys those papers. Voters. The Tories aren't afraid of him. UKIP aren't afraid of him. Even the Liberals aren't afraid of him. They each of them know that Labour having Corbyn, who IS a no-hoper, as their leader will push votes their way and better their chances in marginal seats.

[banjodeano]

because they're newspapers, mate and Labour having such a no-hoper as Corbyn in the pole position to be their next leader is a story and sells papers. And who buys those papers. Voters. The Tories aren't afraid of him. UKIP aren't afraid of him. Even the Liberals aren't afraid of him. They each of them know that Labour having Corbyn, who IS a no-hoper, as their leader will push votes their way and better their chances in marginal seats.

hahaha...well, thats just your opinion, we will have to wait and see

[I1L2T3]

because they're newspapers, mate and Labour having such a no-hoper as Corbyn in the pole position to be their next leader is a story and sells papers. And who buys those papers. Voters. The Tories aren't afraid of him. UKIP aren't afraid of him. Even the Liberals aren't afraid of him. They each of them know that Labour having Corbyn, who IS a no-hoper, as their leader will push votes their way and better their chances in marginal seats.

 

I disagree. He's a potential threat to the current political consensus, and a potential template for mavericks in other political parties.

 

We've had 18 years of Labour trying to ape the Tories. It's time to challenge that and you may be right, it might be that the British public don't want change but as long as we have the three main parties offering variations of a common theme we'll never know.

 

Trouble is the reality is the corporate-supporting right wing don't want it to happen. They don't want the discussion around nationalising industries to become mainstream again, they don't want somebody who is going to champion small and medium business, or somebody who will vigorously support more efficient collection of tax revenue. These are all things that the majority of the public actually support.

 

Quite simply Cooper, Burnham or Kendall are going to be much easier to deal with

[El Cid]

 

We've had 18 years of Labour trying to ape the Tories. It's time to challenge that and you may be right, it might be that the British public don't want change but as long as we have the three main parties offering variations of a common theme we'll never know.

 

 

I dont rule out socialist ways as being unsuccessful; but the challenge will be to hold the Labour party together.

[Anna B]

I dont rule out socialist ways as being unsuccessful; but the challenge will be to hold the Labour party together.

 

Don't forget the Tories are going to have their own problems to deal with very soon.

 

The EU referendum is in 2017. If you want to see a party split in two, then watch that.

[Eric Arthur]

I disagree. He's a potential threat to the current political consensus, and a potential template for mavericks in other political parties.

 

We've had 18 years of Labour trying to ape the Tories. It's time to challenge that and you may be right, it might be that the British public don't want change but as long as we have the three main parties offering variations of a common theme we'll never know.

 

Trouble is the reality is the corporate-supporting right wing don't want it to happen. They don't want the discussion around nationalising industries to become mainstream again, they don't want somebody who is going to champion small and medium business, or somebody who will vigorously support more efficient collection of tax revenue. These are all things that the majority of the public actually support.

 

Quite simply Cooper, Burnham or Kendall are going to be much easier to deal with

 

You usually speak a lot of sense but you must be smoking something to think that anyone apart from labour are worried about him.