Eater Sundae Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 The home secretary is in charge of the police... If he's telling them not to charge people for something then you'd hope they'd be doing as they've been told... I'm pretty sure she is only urging them to show discretion. She cannot instruct them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 They should just get the law changed to allow cyclists to use pavements safely. Of course what's 'safe', that's a matter of opinion, and perhaps why they didn't change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I'm pretty sure she is only urging them to show discretion. She cannot instruct them. When the police were over zealously[1] handing out fixed penalty notices last year the transport minister reminded them of the official guidance and they stopped - with the ACPO recirculating the guidance to all police forces. [1] i.e. To cyclists who were riding on the pavement safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 And then the police are warning 4 year olds for riding on the path. Its madness. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-31805312 Sophie's mum Emma Stephenson said she understood it was illegal to ride on the pavement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 I'll mention again, how do people get their cars onto drives? If the law was to be strictly enforced you'd not be able to cross the pavement to reach your drive or garage... I think that even you would admt that there is a difference between crossing 6 foot of pavement to obtain legitimate access to your property and someone going along the path deliberately breaking the law. Whatever a couple of MP's tell cyclists it is STILL breaking the law until they change it. I assume that thier opinion might be used in a court case ---------- Post added 25-05-2015 at 16:26 ---------- The home secretary is in charge of the police... If he's telling them not to charge people for something then you'd hope they'd be doing as they've been told... But it is STILL against the law, like it or not the law has NOT been changed or repealed If they were not talking tongue in cheek why didnt they use their power to change the law? ---------- Post added 25-05-2015 at 16:28 ---------- When the police were over zealously[1] handing out fixed penalty notices last year the transport minister reminded them of the official guidance and they stopped - with the ACPO recirculating the guidance to all police forces. [1] i.e. To cyclists who were riding on the pavement safely. Who says they were using the pavement safely? It is a matter of opinion after all. OK some cases can be cited where the penalty notices were excessive, but ALL of them? ---------- Post added 25-05-2015 at 16:30 ---------- Sophie's mum Emma Stephenson said she understood it was illegal to ride on the pavement. It IS, no matter what a couple of vote chasiing MP's without the courage of their own convictions reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolyhead Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Come on guys. donotremove admits to being one of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It IS, no matter what a couple of vote chasiing MP's without the courage of their own convictions reckon Isn't it one of those illegal things, that can be done safely when it carried out with the right amount of caution under the right conditions? A bit like doing 75mph on the motorway, you're not suggesting that the police start nicking people who drive safely at 75MPH on a clear motorway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I think that even you would admt that there is a difference between crossing 6 foot of pavement to obtain legitimate access to your property and someone going along the path deliberately breaking the law. Whatever a couple of MP's tell cyclists it is STILL breaking the law until they change it. I assume that thier opinion might be used in a court case Really, you're actually going to argue that it should be strictly enforced against bikes, but we should look the other way for cars if it's "only six foot"... You can't have your cake and eat it. It's either illegal or it's not... Even if the home secretary tells you that you're allowed to drive over it to reach your driveway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I'll mention again, how do people get their cars onto drives? If the law was to be strictly enforced you'd not be able to cross the pavement to reach your drive or garage... Even if the home secretary tells you that you're allowed to drive over it to reach your driveway. Road TRaffic act 1988 and 1991 contain specific exceptions that state it is legal to drive over pavements in order to reach private properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchemist Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Really, you're actually going to argue that it should be strictly enforced against bikes, but we should look the other way for cars if it's "only six foot"... You can't have your cake and eat it. It's either illegal or it's not... Even if the home secretary tells you that you're allowed to drive over it to reach your driveway. OK so you are not going to admit it. Still illegal for bikes on pavements whether you and 2 MPs like it or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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