Was the Poll Tax really fair?

[andrejuan]

I suppose to work out how fair it was, there is no use comparing 6 people

in a house in Pitsmoor to two in a Dore mansion.

 

Lets compare six people in a house on say Acacia Ave. Next door in an identical house lives a widow alone.

 

And the charge is for services provided by the council remember, not a tax on how big your garden is etc.

 

Stamp duty is a tax on how valuable your home is so that's taken care of.

 

Water rates are based on the size the house, but with the option to have a meter and PAYG. Is that fair?

[JFKvsNixon]

erm that being the students:thumbsup:

 

Correct, so what has it got to do with the private landlords?

[ricgem2002]

I suppose to work out how fair it was, there is no use comparing 6 people

in a house in Pitsmoor to two in a Dore mansion.

 

Lets compare six people in a house on say Acacia Ave. Next door in an identical house lives a widow alone.

 

And the charge is for services provided by the council remember, not a tax on how big your garden is etc.

 

Stamp duty is a tax on how valuable your home is so that's taken care of.

 

Water rates are based on the size the house, but with the option to have a meter and PAYG. Is that fair?

so why should 5 or6 people pay 5 or 6 times more than a single person to receive the same service ?

[JFKvsNixon]

so why should 5 or6 people pay 5 or 6 times more than a single person to receive the same service ?

 

Aren't there winners and losers with every type of tax system?

[ricgem2002]

Correct, so what has it got to do with the private landlords?

so you are in agreement that students should pay the council tax?

[andrejuan]

so why should 5 or6 people pay 5 or 6 times more than a single person to receive the same service ?

 

Because it is the person who gets the service, not the house. We are all entitled to the services of the council as individuals, can you imagine

if only the ratepayer could have use of Police, Fire, Refuse collection, footpaths, street lighting and too much more to list.

 

At the time of the PT, it affected me negatively. Even so, I could see the fairness of it in a common sense way. The thing that annoyed me was

the way it was implemented in an unfair way, with little empathy for those who were likely to struggle.

 

Refined and implemented equitably it could have been fair.

Edited May 25, 2015 by andrejuan

[carosio]

Agreed, with a couple of differences:

 

I suppose to work out how fair it was, there is no use comparing 6 people

in a house in Pitsmoor to two in a Dore mansion.

 

Lets compare six people in a house on say Acacia Ave. Next door in an identical house lives a widow alone.

 

And the charge is for services provided by the council remember, not a tax on how big your garden is etc.

Council tax is based on the value of the property (banded).

 

Stamp duty is a tax on how valuable your home is so that's taken care of.

 

Water rates are based on the size the house, but with the option to have a meter and PAYG. Is that fair?

Water charges are based on the old rateable value system which was based on the rentable value of the property.

[JFKvsNixon]

so you are in agreement that students should pay the council tax?

 

No, I think that if your are in full time education that you have a good reason for exemption.

[ricgem2002]

Because it is the person who gets the service, not the house.

so would they have been allowed 5 lots of bins to collect their refuse in ?

 

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No, I think that if your are in full time education that you have a good reason for exemption.

ok should this cost be passed onto the landlords ?

[JFKvsNixon]

ok should this cost be passed onto the landlords ?

 

I feel we're going around in circles. In answer to your question, no because the tenant is liable for the council tax.