Hollis and hancock family.

[Bonty Hammond]

Hi I am of a Hollis family from Sheffield. My dad was born in Attercliffe, Arthur born 1927 and had two brothers Henry (Harry) & Jack (I think his birth name was John).

Their mother’s name was Emily (Millie).

There are several other of us now.

I wonder if there is any connection?

 

co incidentally I’m looking for information on a great Uncle of mine?

Arthur Hollis (brother of my Grandad). He use to ride his horse around Sheffield in the 1920s/30s in full uniform and  welding a sword. I’d love to know if anyone had any pictures? Odd bits of info etc? 

Edited July 16, 2019 by Bonty Hammond

[Martinahollis]

On 31/05/2015 at 18:02, hillsbro said:

Hi Steve - this confirms that the Arthur J. Hollis I had found in Bamforth Street in the 1911 census was your great-grandad. He was with his wife Nellie, née Ashforth and children Arthur, 6 and Harry, 7 months. At that time they were living with relatives of Nellie.

 

Arthur J.'s age is given as 24 as of the 1911 census, and so he must be the Arthur J. Hollis who turns up in the 1891 census at 23 Springvale Road, especially as this Arthur's mother's maiden name was Jenkinson. His parents were William Hollis, a joiner, and Emma Jenkinson who had married in Sheffield in 1864. Arthur J. had an older brother William, born 1875. He was perhaps the William Hollis who died in 1951, aged 76

 

If you'd like a scan of the 1911 census page and other census data, send me your email address via PM. I might also be able to make up some sort of family tree..

Hi, I would like some help On researching my ancestors, the Hollis family.  I was fostered as a baby so have very limited information on my blood relatives.  So far I have identified that my grandfather was Eric hollis born in 1925 and married a m kiernan in 1944.  His farther was Arthur jenkinson Hollis who was an undertaker, at at the time of Eric’s marriage lived at 305 st Philips road, Sheffield. However when looking through census etc, there was no mention of Eric even though I have just received the marriage certificate for Eric and Maureen kiernan, so I know some facts are true. I have copied the quote above as it sounds like me and HOLLISSHEFF are highly likely cousins.  However he/she have not been active for a few years.  Hope you can help and any info/photos would be gratefully accepted 

[hillsbro]

1 hour ago, Martinahollis said:

....  Hope you can help and any info/photos would be gratefully accepted 

Hi Martina - welcome to the Forum! I've had a quick look at some online resources. I found Eric in the births index, his mother's maiden name being Roberts. Otherwise I haven't found much so far. Kelly's directories from 1937 to 1942 confirm the address of 305 St Philip's Road, however the entries are "Mrs Florence F. Hollis, undertaker".  From 1951 to 1974 (the last Kelly's directory published) the business is given as "F.F. Hollis & Son".  Florence would seem to have been Arthur's wife during the period 1937-42, but the marriages index shows that Arthur J. Hollis married Florence Forster in Sheffield in Apr-Jun 1945. The "1939 Register" shows the occupants of 305 St Philip's Road as Colin Forster and Irwin F. Hollis; I couldn't find Eric in this index.

 

I don't know if this is helpful!

[Martinahollis]

42 minutes ago, hillsbro said:

Hi Martina - welcome to the Forum! I've had a quick look at some online resources. I found Eric in the births index, his mother's maiden name being Roberts. Otherwise I haven't found much so far. Kelly's directories from 1937 to 1942 confirm the address of 305 St Philip's Road, however the entries are "Mrs Florence F. Hollis, undertaker".  From 1951 to 1974 (the last Kelly's directory published) the business is given as "F.F. Hollis & Son".  Florence would seem to have been Arthur's wife during the period 1937-42, but the marriages index shows that Arthur J. Hollis married Florence Forster in Sheffield in Apr-Jun 1945. The "1939 Register" shows the occupants of 305 St Philip's Road as Colin Forster and Irwin F. Hollis; I couldn't find Eric in this index.

 

 

 

I don't know if this is helpful!

 

Hi

 

so it must mean Florence was Arthur’s second wife.  Unfortunately I am still at a loss with Eric. I have also got my maternal mothers birth certificate which mentions Eric as been her father and at the time serving  with the service corp as a PTE. this was in 1946. As I said in my first message he married in 1944, which says his trade was a joiner, but currently serving in the army.  Really scratching my head with this one 😔

[hillsbro]

1 hour ago, Martinahollis said:

.. so it must mean Florence was Arthur’s second wife.

Yes, this is how it seems, but it's odd that - to judge from Kelly's Directory entries of 1937-42 - a Mrs. Florence Hollis lived at Arthur's address as on Eric and Maureen's 1944 marriage certificate, and the marriages index doesn't show an earlier marriage to a Florence, only the one of 1945.  It also seems unlikely that Arthur married two Florences! In fact we know that Arthur married Nellie Ashforth in 1907 (they were at 29 Bamforth Street in the 1911 census return) but I can't find another local marriage for an Arthur Hollis. Maybe Arthur and Florence were not actually married until 1945 but "pretended" to be - this might account for the directory entries. Also, a Nellie Hollis of the right age died in Sheffield in January-March quarter of 1945, and Arthur evidently married Florence in April-June of that year. Curious!

 

I mentioned the 1939 Register entry for 305 St Philip's Road - here is a link to a scan of the entry. https://i.postimg.cc/250ZMskL/305-St-Philip-s.jpg

[Martinahollis]

43 minutes ago, hillsbro said:

Yes, this is how it seems, but it's odd that - to judge from Kelly's Directory entries of 1937-42 - a Mrs. Florence Hollis lived at Arthur's address as on Eric and Maureen's 1944 marriage certificate, and the marriages index doesn't show an earlier marriage to a Florence, only the one of 1945.  It also seems unlikely that Arthur married two Florences! In fact we know that Arthur married Nellie Ashforth in 1907 (they were at 29 Bamforth Street in the 1911 census return) but I can't find another local marriage for an Arthur Hollis. Maybe Arthur and Florence were not actually married until 1945 but "pretended" to be - this might account for the directory entries. Also, a Nellie Hollis of the right age died in Sheffield in January-March quarter of 1945, and Arthur evidently married Florence in April-June of that year. Curious!

 

I mentioned the 1939 Register entry for 305 St Philip's Road - here is a link to a scan of the entry. https://i.postimg.cc/250ZMskL/305-St-Philip-s.jpg

Yes it all a mystery to be fair, there is this with Eric hollis, but also the fact is his wife as we know he married a Maureen kiernan, but in my maternal mother’s birth certificate she is called Mary brigid kiernan..with same birth and death dates 

[Martinahollis]

On 08/03/2020 at 19:35, hillsbro said:

Hi Martina - welcome to the Forum! I've had a quick look at some online resources. I found Eric in the births index, his mother's maiden name being Roberts. Otherwise I haven't found much so far. Kelly's directories from 1937 to 1942 confirm the address of 305 St Philip's Road, however the entries are "Mrs Florence F. Hollis, undertaker".  From 1951 to 1974 (the last Kelly's directory published) the business is given as "F.F. Hollis & Son".  Florence would seem to have been Arthur's wife during the period 1937-42, but the marriages index shows that Arthur J. Hollis married Florence Forster in Sheffield in Apr-Jun 1945. The "1939 Register" shows the occupants of 305 St Philip's Road as Colin Forster and Irwin F. Hollis; I couldn't find Eric in this index.

 

 

 

I don't know if this is helpful!

 

Hi 

 

just thought I would update you on some of my findings. Eric hollis, born 1925, is in fact the son of Florence Forster nee Roberts, she was married to a Harry Forster and had one son with him called Colin who was born in 1911, Harry died in 1945, and Florence went onto marry Arthur jenkinson Hollis the same year! Now to the fact Florence was still presumed either married or divorced to Harry, and Arthur to Nellie ashforth was Eric a child born out of wedlock?.?

[hillsbro]

Hi Martina,

 

Yes, it did look as if the Florence F. Hollis mentioned in Kelly's directories etc.  wasn't actually married to Arthur, but did marry him in 1945.  Her apparent middle initial "F." may perhaps stand for Forster! There doesn't seem to be a likely birth entry for a Florence F. Roberts. It is all very interesting, and rather puzzling, but it does seem that Eric was born out of wedlock to Arthur and Florence - quite commonplace today, but unusual in the 1920s.