Eric Arthur Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31789827 Margaret Thatcher was made aware of child abuse allegations involving Cyril Smith before he was knighted in 1988 Cabinet Office documents have shown." Read the actual article instead of the headline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exxon Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 What did she know? How do you now that she knew? She knew that Cyril Smith had been questioned by police who had determined there was no evidence against him that would stand up to cross examination in a court of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 She knew that Cyril Smith had been questioned by police who had determined there was no evidence against him that would stand up to cross examination in a court of law. Read the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exxon Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Read the article. I've read the article and seen the report on TV. Why don't you highlight the bit that you think is relevant and I'll list the bits you chose to ignore. What part of innocent until proven guilty would you like to be removed from UK law? "Lord Shackleton wrote that police had investigated Smith in 1970 for "indecent assault against teenage boys" between 1961 and 1966, but the director of public prosecutions (DPP) had decided "there was no reasonable prospect of conviction"." Lord Shackleton said it would be "slightly unfortunate" if this "episode" stopped Smith receiving the honour. Edited November 4, 2015 by exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Read the article. You must do us the same courtesy before you demand that others do what you obviously haven't done yourself. Read the article you posted please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You must do us the same courtesy before you demand that others do what you obviously haven't done yourself. Read the article you posted please. Oh I have, plus several more articles, all freely available for those who care to look, which say pretty much the same as this: 'Thatcher was explicitly warned that awarding a knighthood to the Rochdale MP risked damaging the 'integrity of the honours system.' A government Mandarin also wanted to know why Cyril Smith had not been charged with child abuse and was seeking answers. 'The Civil Service feared the secret Smith police file might be made public in 1982 - when a burglary at the Fleet Street offices of the Sun newspaper revealed the editor was in possession of a copy.' This revelation will lead to speculation that the break in was an attempt to cover up Smith's crimes.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529 Please do a little research before accusing others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exxon Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Oh I have, plus several more articles, all freely available for those who care to look, which say pretty much the same as this: 'Thatcher was explicitly warned that awarding a knighthood to the Rochdale MP risked damaging the 'integrity of the honours system.' A government Mandarin also wanted to know why Cyril Smith had not been charged with child abuse and was seeking answers. 'The Civil Service feared the secret Smith police file might be made public in 1982 - when a burglary at the Fleet Street offices of the Sun newspaper revealed the editor was in possession of a copy.' This revelation will lead to speculation that the break in was an attempt to cover up Smith's crimes.' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2984529 Please do a little research before accusing others. Or to put it in a nutshell. No proof whatsoever other than speculation, and only the fact appears to be a police investigation that conculded there wasn't enough evidence to bring a prosection. I know the innocent until proven guilty is inconvenient to your case. But just what do you think you can prove that couldn't have been proved under Thatchers government, Major's government, Blair's government, Brown's government or the Coalition government? It all comes down to that inconvenient obstacle of evidence. We don't convict folk on rumour and speculation in the UK. That is reserved for places like North Korea. Edited November 4, 2015 by exxon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassity Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Or to put it in a nutshell. No proof whatsoever other than speculation, and only the fact appears to be a police investigation that conculded there wasn't enough evidence to bring a prosection. I know the innocent until proven guilty is inconvenient to your case. But just what do you think you can prove that couldn't have been proved under Thatchers government, Major's government, Blair's government, Brown's government or the Coalition government? It all comes down to that inconvenient obstacle of evidence. We don't convict folk on rumour and speculation in the UK. That is reserved for places like North Korea. Are you denying thatcher was aware of the "Smith" scandal before the honour was given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Or to put it in a nutshell. No proof whatsoever other than speculation, and only the fact appears to be a police investigation that conculded there wasn't enough evidence to bring a prosection. I know the innocent until proven guilty is inconvenient to your case. But just what do you think you can prove that couldn't have been proved under Thatchers government, Major's government, Blair's government, Brown's government or the Coalition government? It all comes down to that inconvenient obstacle of evidence. We don't convict folk on rumour and speculation in the UK. That is reserved for places like North Korea. I really do wonder what you're getting out of this. Jimmy Savile wasn't convicted of anything either although this is what started the revelations, - so I assume you think he was innocent too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Belle* Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Another very convenient burglary:BBC news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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