Anna B Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Longcol said: Transcripts of trials aren't available until a judgement has been delivered. The Diana 'inquest' posted transcripts every day during proceedings, and very enlightening they were too. Nothing like what was being said in the press and media. That's when I first realised media bias was a thing. 1 minute ago, Anna B said: Edited May 17, 2019 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Anna B said: The Diana 'inquest' posted transcripts every day during proceedings, and very enlightening they were too. Nothing like what was being said in the press and media. That's when I first realised media bias was a thing. Yeah - the tabloids (esp the Express) have got a lot to answer for - obvious case of a driver having drunk a little too much and showing off when pursued by the paparazzi - and passengers not wearing safety belts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 The press already seem to have made their minds up regarding Carl Beech, in spite of his pleading not guilty. The media coverage is very one sided, which is why I would like to see the actual court transcripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Anna B said: The press already seem to have made their minds up regarding Carl Beech, in spite of his pleading not guilty. The media coverage is very one sided, which is why I would like to see the actual court transcripts. Court transcripts are a bit like reading a play without seeing it acted or reading a film script without watching the film. Don't expect to get anything like the whole story from the transcripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Longcol said: Court transcripts are a bit like reading a play without seeing it acted or reading a film script without watching the film. Don't expect to get anything like the whole story from the transcripts. True, but I'll get more idea from them, than from our one-sided media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Anna B said: True, but I'll get more idea from them, than from our one-sided media. Somehow I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Longcol said: Somehow I doubt it. Why? I want to know what has actually been said, rather than some newspaper's spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Anna B said: Why? I want to know what has actually been said, rather than some newspaper's spin on it. But in all the years you've contributed to the likes of the Princess Di & David Kelly threads I can't ever recall you linking to the actual inquest papers (or linking to anything else for that matter) - only repeating allegations found in the more dodgy tabloids that both were murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) On 18/05/2019 at 23:35, Longcol said: But in all the years you've contributed to the likes of the Princess Di & David Kelly threads I can't ever recall you linking to the actual inquest papers (or linking to anything else for that matter) - only repeating allegations found in the more dodgy tabloids that both were murdered. I followed the transcripts of Diana's inquest daily at the time, (as I've mentioned before.) What struck me most was the presses attempt to smear/ vilify certain witnesses. The images the press tried to convey to the general public bore no resemblance to the people appearing in court to give evidence, nor what was said. The missreporting was scandalous. Edited May 20, 2019 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Anna B said: I followed the transcripts of Diana's inquest daily at the time, (as I've mentioned before.) What struck me most was the presses attempt to smear/ vilify certain witnesses. The images the press tried to convey to the general public bore no resemblance to the people appearing in court to give evidence, nor what was said. The missreporting was scandalous. How do you know? You weren't there in court. How things appear in a plain transcript doesn't give a clue to the emphasis the witness may have given to certain words - whether they sounded sincere, shifty, condescending etc. You can't tell if they were making eye contact with other people or staring at the ground or into space. You can't see their body language. Have you ever interviewed anyone for a job? It isn't just what is said, it's the way that it's said - and the non-verbal clues that are equally as important if not more so. And yes, numerous times you've said you read inquests - but you've never linked to one and say a press report to show how they contradicted each other. You have gone along with some of the more fanciful "conspiracy theories" based on next to nothing - if I recall you thought Mohammed Al-Fayed a credible witness even though his QC admitted that they hadn't a shred of evidence to back up his allegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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