Cancer Research, is it a big con?

[esme]

The two statement are entirely different.

No they aren't

You can't avoid coming into contact with a virus,

Yes you can

but you can stop it from causing you to become ill.

only if you kill it before you're infected, otherwise you're just managing symptoms, if you are infected then by definition you are ill

So you won't be able to avoid Ionising radiation

correct

but we will one day be able to stop it damaging our DNA.

No you won't this isn't even a theoretical possibility.

[loraward]

No they aren'tYes you canonly if you kill it before you're infected, otherwise you're just managing symptoms, if you are infected then by definition you are illcorrectNo you won't this isn't even a theoretical possibility.

 

Yes they are.

 

Only if you seal yourself into an airtight virus free container.

 

Not so, you can come into contact with the flu virus and many other viruses without becoming infected.

 

Yet, but I think one day it will be.

[esme]

Yes they are.

No they're not

Only if you seal yourself into an airtight virus free container.

Correct

Not so, you can come into contact with the flu virus and many other viruses without becoming infected.

No your immune system detects the infection before it becomes serious and deals with it, you still get infected, you are still ill, just not seriously so

Yet, but I think one day it will be.

It's not even considered a possibility in science fiction, they are random events, you cannot predict or control them.

[loraward]

No they're notCorrectNo your immune system detects the infection before it becomes serious and deals with it, you still get infected, you are still ill, just not seriously soIt's not even considered a possibility in science fiction, they are random events, you cannot predict or control them.

 

Yes they are.

 

Infection: The invasion and multiplication of microorganisms such as bacteria, viruses, and parasites that are not normally present within the body.

 

So if the immune system suppresses the virus, stops it multiplying and prevent any symptoms, it wouldn't be defined as an infection.

 

You don't need to predict when they will occur to protect human DNA against mutation cause by them.

[Bonzo77]

So if the immune system suppresses the virus, stops it multiplying and prevent any symptoms, it wouldn't be defined as an infection.

 

I've the virus gets inside you, you're infected. The immune system stops the infection spreading.

[loraward]

It's not even considered a possibility in science fiction, they are random events, you cannot predict or control them.

 

Looks like someone is already toying with the idea, who know what they will be able to do a another few hundred years.

 

Perhaps someday we can genetically engineer humans to have the same super radiation-repair systems as microorganisms like D. radiodurans. But even if such tinkering with the human genome was possible, those hardy organisms aren’t 100 percent resistant to radiation damage, so health problems would persist.

 

So of the three known mechanisms that life has devised to combat radiation damage – barriers, repair, and desiccation – the most immediately practical solution for human spaceflight would be to devise better radiation barriers. Anitori thinks his studies of the Paralana Spring organisms could someday help us engineer such barriers.

http://www.astrobio.net/topic/origins/extreme-life/resisting-radiation/#sthash.znIJ18M9.dpuf

[Cyclone]

Yo obviously don't understand the faith that some people have, if they die it is Gods will, and choosing not to have a cure isn't suicide. Not that any of that as anything to do with anything I have said.

 

You obviously don't understand that no matter what myth they believe, if they make a choice to die, quickly or slowly, that's suicide. It's what the word means.

 

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Looks like someone is already toying with the idea, who know what they will be able to do a another few hundred years.

 

Perhaps someday we can genetically engineer humans to have the same super radiation-repair systems as microorganisms like D. radiodurans. But even if such tinkering with the human genome was possible, those hardy organisms aren’t 100 percent resistant to radiation damage, so health problems would persist.

 

So of the three known mechanisms that life has devised to combat radiation damage – barriers, repair, and desiccation – the most immediately practical solution for human spaceflight would be to devise better radiation barriers. Anitori thinks his studies of the Paralana Spring organisms could someday help us engineer such barriers.

http://www.astrobio.net/topic/origins/extreme-life/resisting-radiation/#sthash.znIJ18M9.dpuf

 

The aforementioned lead lined box... But that's about space travel. We're talking about generally in order to prevent cancer.

You cannot avoid natural radiation, and you cannot stop radiation damaging DNA.

Cells will always be damaged by the environment. We may reduce the amount of damage, we may improve the repair and apoptosis mechanisms, but cancers will still occur. What we will do though, is routinely and easily detect and cure them.

That's a long way off though, but there are quite a few interesting avenues of research taking place at the moment.

[loraward]

You obviously don't understand that no matter what myth they believe, if they make a choice to die, quickly or slowly, that's suicide. It's what the word means.

 

No it doesn't.

 

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The aforementioned lead lined box... But that's about space travel. We're talking about generally in order to prevent cancer.

You cannot avoid natural radiation, and you cannot stop radiation damaging DNA.

Cells will always be damaged by the environment. We may reduce the amount of damage, we may improve the repair and apoptosis mechanisms, but cancers will still occur. What we will do though, is routinely and easily detect and cure them.

That's a long way off though, but there are quite a few interesting avenues of research taking place at the moment.

 

I haven't said you can.

[Halibut]

 

I haven't said you can.

 

Yes you have. Stop playing pathetic word games.

[loraward]

Yes you have. Stop playing pathetic word games.

 

In which post do you think I have said you can.