If You Could Implement 3 Laws?

[loraward]

Scotland isn't exactly "off shore" :puzzled:

 

Illegal immigrants, by definition, don't have current visa's. They might be overstaying as you imply, but they ARE sent home if they're caught.

 

Not all of them.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/7279436/Thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-win-right-to-stay-in-Britain-under-squatters-rights.html

A little-known rule, introduced by Labour in 2003, allows illegal immigrants to claim "indefinite leave to remain" if they manage to live in Britain's black economy for long enough or are failed asylum seekers who manage to avoid deportation.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10727134/Watchdog-raises-concerns-over-thousands-of-foreign-criminals-and-illegal-immigrants-still-in-UK.html

[TheRocketMan]

Those wanting asylum and all forms of immigration to the UK, should take place off our shores, to allow all administration to be done, prior to coming to the UK.

 

Jersey or the Isle of White are perfect!

[Cyclone]

Someone would need to define the UK way of life though.

 

Have you, for example, made sure to do some Morris Dancing this year? Have you play crochet on the lawn and drunk pims, eaten strawberries and watched Wimbledon, had a fight on a Friday night and vomited in the town centre from too much booze?

 

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Not all of them.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/7279436/Thousands-of-illegal-immigrants-win-right-to-stay-in-Britain-under-squatters-rights.html

A little-known rule, introduced by Labour in 2003, allows illegal immigrants to claim "indefinite leave to remain" if they manage to live in Britain's black economy for long enough or are failed asylum seekers who manage to avoid deportation.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10727134/Watchdog-raises-concerns-over-thousands-of-foreign-criminals-and-illegal-immigrants-still-in-UK.html

 

Allows their claim to be considered, it's not guaranteed. If their claim fails, they'll be deported, if it succeeds, they'll now have a visa.

[loraward]

 

Allows their claim to be considered, it's not guaranteed. If their claim fails, they'll be deported, if it succeeds, they'll now have a visa.

 

Thousands are not deported after their claim fails because of the incompetence of the agency responsible for deporting them.

[Cyclone]

The system needs to be made to work, it's not a case of just changing the rules though, that doesn't make it any more likely that the agencies involved would become competent, there would just be more rules that they didn't properly enforce.

 

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Which was sort of my point to poppet. There is no 'new' law required. The current law just needs to be enforced, although illegal immigrants by definition include ones that the authorities don't know about and can't simply go and pick up.

[mattleonard]

Someone would need to define the UK way of life though.

 

Have you, for example, made sure to do some Morris Dancing this year? Have you play crochet on the lawn and drunk pims, eaten strawberries and watched Wimbledon, had a fight on a Friday night and vomited in the town centre from too much booze?

 

Indeed. Plus whatever the UK way of life is, it's constantly evolving.

 

A lot of the criticism multiculturalism faced was that immigrants formed their own distinct communities rather than integrating with the existing British communities; I personally think it's that they struggled to find the existing British communities. I wonder if it was/is the same people complaining that also don't like the fact that they don't see children playing in the streets, no-one knows their neighbours, and that small local shops are a thing of the past now that everyone (probably themselves included) shops at supermarkets. I think it's incredibly ironic that some aspects of many immigrant communities might actually reflect the ideal we would like to portray of British life. Plus, I wonder whether the same people would suddenly stop complaining if all those immigrant communities closed their shops and decided to do all their shopping at Tesco instead.