EU Referendum - How will you vote?

[L00b]

I am certain that each of those countries will welcome LeMarquis if she wanted to go there but you would be asking her some serious questions about her mental faculties if she wanted to stay to work there

Put aside the fact that I wouldn't be asking that at all (because I'm a live-and-let-live and generally non-judgemental kind of person), and the relative lack of security in some parts of them, there are both some seriously lucrative expat jobs and some seriously soul-soothing charity jobs in all of these countries.

but you wouldn't be asking her the same questions if she were a Pakistani, Indian, Syrian or North Korean moving to the UK because you would probably know why she wanted to move to the UK.

Talk about circular logic!

[Jukes]

Correct, it is absolutely circular logic because as you pointed out people do what is best for themselves but that isn't always what is best for the receiving nation or sometimes the nation that they depart. It is scandalous and incredibly selfish for the UK to steal skilled workers from nations that don't have enough of them to begin with but nobody would blame a Kenyan doctor, engineer or cyclist for leaving to make a better life for themselves in the UK while Kenya suffers a little bit more as a result. You might think that a Kenyan, Pakistani, Indian, Syrian or North Korean doctor in the NHS is a good thing but you would be really wrong.

 

Jukes x

Edited May 25, 2016 by Jukes

[sutty27]

Correct, it is absolutely circular logic because as you pointed out people do what is best for themselves but that isn't always what is best for the receiving nation or sometimes the nation that they depart. It is scandalous and incredibly selfish for the UK to steal skilled workers from nations that don't have enough of them to begin with but nobody would blame a Kenyan doctor, engineer or cyclist for leaving to make a better life for themselves in the UK while Kenya suffers a little bit more as a result. You might think that a Kenyan, Pakistani, Indian, Syrian or North Korean doctor in the NHS is a good thing but you would be really wrong.

 

Jukes x

 

Spot on, but sadly some people are selfish so only think of themselves.

[spilldig]

I am probably correct in saying that none of these cities are located in EU countries, nor in countries that subscribe to free movement of people with their neighbours.

 

Perhaps the development of socio-cultural values in Pakistan, Syria, North Korea and India would benefit from doing just that indeed

 

Not yet, but Cameron has said he will pave the way from Ankara to Brussels, so then Iraq ? Then ? No, I don't want to dwell on it. Enough is enough.

[L00b]

Correct, it is absolutely circular logic because as you pointed out people do what is best for themselves but that isn't always what is best for the receiving nation or sometimes the nation that they depart.

 

It is scandalous and incredibly selfish for the UK to steal skilled workers from nations that don't have enough of them to begin with but nobody would blame a Kenyan doctor, engineer or cyclist for leaving to make a better life for themselves in the UK while Kenya suffers a little bit more as a result. You might think that a Kenyan, Pakistani, Indian, Syrian or North Korean doctor in the NHS is a good thing but you would be really wrong.

And that has to do with the freedom of movement of EU citizens intra-EU...how?

[tzijlstra]

And that has to do with the freedom of movement of EU citizens intra-EU...how?

 

It is the hidden national socialist message that eminates from rubbish movements to justify their hatred of other races in this country, it has been PCed considerably in an attempt to Farage it and make it a popular message.

[MobileB]

So here is my overall prediction for the referendum result;

 

Overall result - Remain by 10+%

 

Regional breakdown;

Scotland - Remain

Northern Ireland - Remain

Wales - Remain

 

England breakdown;

South West - Remain

North West - Remain

Yorkshire & the Humber - Leave

North East - Leave

South East - Leave

East of England - Really have no idea

London - Remain

West Midlands - Remain

East Midlands - Leave

 

Let's see how close I will be.

 

That's interesting when you compare against how regional funding from the EU is distributed:

 

•East Midlands: €268.5 million

•East of England: €110.9 million

•London: €181.9 million

•North East: €375.7 million

•North West: €755.5 million

•South East: €23.7 million

•South West: €124.7 million

•West Midlands: €399.9 million

•Yorkshire and the Humber: €583.6 million

 

Be interesting to see if the British Government would replace this funding from monies saved if we were to exit by similar sort of distribution. Or whether funding would just be removed and used to pay back borrowing.

[retep]

Further integration would prevent that.

 

 

 

You are free to ring him Peter, 05283440840 is the number I have, his name is Jan Martini and his English isn't great, but tell him Tim Zijlstra told you to ring to talk about de vis regulatie, schotland en vismest and I am sure you will get an ear full.

 

How?

 

I have no intention of phoning, his nephew is more than enough to tolerate.

[Jukes]

It is the hidden national socialist message that eminates from rubbish movements to justify their hatred of other races in this country, it has been PCed considerably in an attempt to Farage it and make it a popular message.

 

I'm mixed race with a mother and father of different colors, religions and nationalities. Who are you apart from a Kenyan doctor stealer?

 

Jukes x

[El Cid]

Why is free trade this big positive idea, when David Cameron looks up to China and their booming economy, they have average trade tariffs of over 5% and the importation of luxury goods often taxed at 20%