panzer1 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Unbeliever you may wel, be right in what you say but that is not how I see it. I see the eu as run by unelected bureaucrats that are power hungry, are never brought to account and quite happily carry on their merry way even though it is obvious to a blind man that there is unrest within Eutopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 An opinion based on your own prejudices. Please explain my prejudice? In fact don't bother Smithy, I know you are only trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 In complete agreement with that. The problem as I see it, is that the over-simplistic and populist rethoric of the Brexit/Leave campaign in action is designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator of xenophobic tendencies, much more than engage in a rational debate about the socio-economic aspects of the matter, continually misrepresenting as it does the relevance of the EU to the UK's immigration policies, when it's not outright lying about it. An opinion based on your own prejudices, you don't want rational debate, you want people to agree with you and when they don't you call them xenophobic. ---------- Post added 01-06-2016 at 15:15 ---------- Please explain my prejudice? In fact don't bother Smithy, I know you are only trolling. You really should stop calling people trolls and xerographic because you are starting to sound like a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) An opinion based on your own prejudices, you don't want rational debate, you want people to agree with you and when they don't you call them xenophobic. ---------- Post added 01-06-2016 at 15:15 ---------- You really should stop calling people trolls and xerographic because you are starting to sound like a troll. You call me prejudiced but then quoted L00b. Please amend your previous posts. Your accusations towards me are unfounded. Xerographic? I never mentioned photocopiers either. Edited June 1, 2016 by Shef1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) You call me prejudiced but then quoted L00b. Please amend your previous posts. Your accusations towards me are unfounded. In response the this post. Considering that Leave has now begun to focus its energies on the immigration issue which has seen their popularity increase I think it is entirely naïve to suggest very few people are xenophobic. Originally Posted by Shef1985 View Post I never said it was! I said it was naïve to suggest xenophobia plays little part in the reasoning of few Brexiters. Your guess would be wrong. It depends very much on what 'type' of foreigner! Prejudice Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. Its a prejudiced opinion to think that xenophobia plays a part in the reasoning of Brexiters. Edited June 1, 2016 by sutty27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 In response the this post. Prejudice Preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. Its a prejudiced opinion to think that xenophobia plays a part in the reasoning of Brexiters. Read it properly. Do I accuse all Brexiters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Read it properly. Do I accuse all Brexiters? How many do you personally know? And have they told you they don't like foreigners? How do you come to the conclusion that some of the Brexiters that you don't know are xerographic other than it being a prejudiced a opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 How many do you personally know? And have they told you they don't like foreigners? How do you come to the conclusion that some of the Brexiters that you don't know are xerographic? I haven't accused any Brexiters of being involved in the photocopy industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 .........you explained nothing! read my other comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) I haven't accused any Brexiters of being involved in the photocopy industry. :hihi: ---------- Post added 01-06-2016 at 15:42 ---------- Unbeliever you may wel, be right in what you say but that is not how I see it. I see the eu as run by unelected bureaucrats that are power hungry, are never brought to account and quite happily carry on their merry way even though it is obvious to a blind man that there is unrest within Eutopia. It is my impression that there is a lot of momentum behind the project itself which doesn't seem hindered by the wishes of the people. I get the sense that it is fuelled by collective fear that the project is failing (which would be a very painful event) and can only be saved by further integration. But this is anecdotal, so I do not submit it as evidence. Edited June 1, 2016 by unbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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