unbeliever Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Amusing! But I asked unbeliever :-p Generally true. But what else is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Generally true. But what else is new. You agree with Hawking then? As a scientist that's OK by you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 A Brexit campaign leaflet just landed through the door with the fake £350m a week argument plastered on the front of it. Hot on the heels of a remain leaflet. Very irritating getting leaflets stuffed full of lies through the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 A Brexit campaign leaflet just landed through the door with the fake £350m a week argument plastered on the front of it. Hot on the heels of a remain leaflet. Very irritating getting leaflets stuffed full of lies through the door It's not a straight out lie. They just forget to mention the rebate & EU contribution. ---------- Post added 04-06-2016 at 12:35 ---------- We do send 350 million per week at first. ---------- Post added 04-06-2016 at 12:35 ---------- I say forgot..more like neglected..Let's say they were economical with the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 It's not a straight out lie. They just forget to mention the rebate & EU contribution. ---------- Post added 04-06-2016 at 12:35 ---------- We do send 350 million per week at first. ---------- Post added 04-06-2016 at 12:35 ---------- I say forgot..more like neglected..Let's say they were economical with the truth! It's a lie. It has already been proven to be a lie. It says in the same paragraph that we could spend that £350m on the NHS. We can't because we never send £350m. http://infacts.org/vote-leave-lying-saying-send-eu-350-million-week/ The other side is just as bad. Looking at the remain leaflet it says we have £36bn less to spend if we leave. How can they possibly state that so emphatically? How can they possibly know? For such an important decision the recourse to lies and fake statistics is highly irritating. Had enough of it. From both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 You agree with Hawking then? As a scientist that's OK by you? Science gives mankind power. Whether we use that power constructively or destructively is a matter for everybody. Scientists are not qualified, nor empowered to make such decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) It's a lie. It has already been proven to be a lie. It says in the same paragraph that we could spend that £350m on the NHS. We can't because we never send £350m. http://infacts.org/vote-leave-lying-saying-send-eu-350-million-week/ The other side is just as bad. Looking at the remain leaflet it says we have £36bn less to spend if we leave. How can they possibly state that so emphatically? How can they possibly know? For such an important decision the recourse to lies and fake statistics is highly irritating. Had enough of it. From both sides. It patronises the voters, many of whom are capable of fact finding on the Internet. I'm through with the points scoring & lies too. Truth is nobody knows the net effect of leave & remain. Edited June 4, 2016 by Tomjames Net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shef1985 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Science gives mankind power. Whether we use that power constructively or destructively is a matter for everybody. Scientists are not qualified, nor empowered to make such decisions. Do you not agree with Hawking when he said leaving the EU would be a disaster for science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Do you not agree with Hawking when he said leaving the EU would be a disaster for science? Don't see why. A lot of the coolest science in my area: nuclear physics, quantum mechanics, early particle physics, general relativity was mostly done by international collaboration long before the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) It's a lie. It has already been proven to be a lie. It says in the same paragraph that we could spend that £350m on the NHS. We can't because we never send £350m. http://infacts.org/vote-leave-lying-saying-send-eu-350-million-week/ The other side is just as bad. Looking at the remain leaflet it says we have £36bn less to spend if we leave. How can they possibly state that so emphatically? How can they possibly know? For such an important decision the recourse to lies and fake statistics is highly irritating. Had enough of it. From both sides. It is £350 that we don't control, some is spent here but not necessarily on things we would choose to spend it on and some is spent in other countries on things we don't necessarily agree with. ---------- Post added 04-06-2016 at 14:32 ---------- Do you not agree with Hawking when he said leaving the EU would be a disaster for science? Do you not agree with Hawking that science will result in our destruction within 100 years? Edited June 4, 2016 by sutty27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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