EU Referendum - How will you vote?

[chalga]

I will vote for us to leave.

 

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Who do you think was doing agricultural work before the immigrants got here? Do you really think British people would put up with all that you have said. In reality the farmers will just have to pay better wages and houses will have to be built for the workers to live in.

 

Why would it be any different for British people?........are farmers going to pay out extra after leaving the EU?

[I1L2T3]

Who do you think was doing agricultural work before the immigrants got here? Do you really think British people would put up with all that you have said. In reality the farmers will just have to pay better wages and houses will have to be built for the workers to live in.

 

Yeah, dead easy. Let's put the farmers out of business by making them pay high wages and making them build whole new villages for workers.

 

This kind of 'fix' would have to be played out in countless sectors of the economy to re-align us with being out of the EU.

[loraward]

We have record employment, falling numbers of claims for out of work benefits and over two million jobs have been created in 5 years.

 

 

We also have a record number of people living in the country so one would expect to have record employment.

 

Its good that we have created two million jobs, but think how much better it would have been if more had gone to the British unemployed and fewer immigrants had arrived in the UK. It would have meant more money for the NHS, more housing for the people here, smaller class sizes in school, better access to public services, more space for everyone, smaller UK carbon footprint, less imports, less pollution, less congested roads.

[I1L2T3]

Why would it be any different for British people?........are farmers going to pay out extra after leaving the EU?

 

Those in the countryside are going to be some of the most vociferous voices supporting staying in. Wait and see.

[Happ Hazzard]

Yeah, dead easy. Let's put the farmers out of business by making them pay high wages and making them build whole new villages for workers.

 

This kind of 'fix' would have to be played out in countless sectors of the economy to re-align us with being out of the EU.

They wouldn't have to pay "high" wages. Just not "low" wages. They'd have to pay enough to make people want to do the job instead of sitting on the dole. It isn't that much to ask.

 

As far as house go, if there's people in the area with money, let housebuilders take advantage of that by building homes for the people to buy.

[chalga]

They wouldn't have to pay "high" wages. Just not "low" wages. They'd have to pay enough to make people want to do the job instead of sitting on the dole. It isn't that much to ask.

 

As far as house go, if there's people in the area with money, let housebuilders take advantage of that by building homes for the people to buy.

 

No,they would have to pay enough wages to want unemployed to leave home and go to deepest Lincolnshire to work and live there.......and make it financially beneficial for them to make enough money to get off the dole and make enough to bank good savings.

[I1L2T3]

We also have a record number of people living in the country so one would expect to have record employment.

 

Its good that we have created two million jobs, but think how much better it would have been if more had gone to the British unemployed and fewer immigrants had arrived in the UK. It would have meant more money for the NHS, more housing for the people here, smaller class sizes in school, better access to public services, more space for everyone, smaller UK carbon footprint, less imports, less pollution, less congested roads.

 

In future, quote the rest of the post. In this case the bit that covers the unemployment issues that you've just gone on to discuss while ignoring the elements of unemployment I mentioned - transient, structural etc...

 

There are fewer British unemployed - more Brits than ever are working according to the Tories.

 

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They wouldn't have to pay "high" wages. Just not "low" wages. They'd have to pay enough to make people want to do the job instead of sitting on the dole. It isn't that much to ask.

 

As far as house go, if there's people in the area with money, let housebuilders take advantage of that by building homes for the people to buy.

 

Are you willing to pay double or triple for your spuds, apples, cheese, milk etc... because if the farmers have to pay more you will have to pay more. The costs will be passed to consumers.

 

And if we're out of the EU there will be no cheap replacement from other EU countries. We'd have to get produce from elsewhere which would be less fresh and again still not cheap having been flown or shipped in over longer distances.

 

---------- Post added 11-06-2015 at 10:05 ----------

 

No,they would have to pay enough wages to want unemployed to leave home and go to deepest Lincolnshire to work and live there.......and make it financially beneficial for them to make enough money to get off the dole and make enough to bank good savings.

 

And build new houses for them. Can you imagine the NIMBYs reaction in those rural areas when every village needs a couple of hundred extra houses adding (or maybe local towns need a few thousand extra houses added) for low waged families. The immigrants workers are tolerated in the countryside because in a lot of cases they are hardly visible to the people who live there. They eat and sleep in cheap lodgings on site or are bussed in.

Edited June 11, 2015 by I1L2T3

[chalga]

Prices of that type of food would go up,as the extra costs are passed on to the UK consumer,I am sure,then there is the loss of EU subsidies to farmers and whoever else is claiming them.

Not only would prices go up for UK consumers,the exports would go up the same and make UK produce less competitive price wise than other EU countries who were willing to accept migrant labour,so I would expect the export market to suffer as importers looked for cheaper alternatives.

[retep]

They could be arriving back here with just the clothes on their back. Imagine what would happen to the prices of their properties when a couple of million Brits have to sell up overnight.

 

They'll be coming back expecting to be housed and with a more elderly age profile will immediately strain health services.

 

Those of working age will be looking for jobs that won't exist.

 

Basically you swap a couple of million hard working, healthy, tax paying EU immigrants for a couple of million more elderly Brit returnees who need housing and healthcare.

 

Nobody pro-exit has thought this through.

 

Simple question, why.

[I1L2T3]

Prices of that type of food would go up,as the extra costs are passed on to the UK consumer,I am sure,then there is the loss of EU subsidies to farmers and whoever else is claiming them.

Not only would prices go up for UK consumers,the exports would go up the same and make UK produce less competitive price wise than other EU countries who were willing to accept migrant labour,so I would expect the export market to suffer as importers looked for cheaper alternatives.

 

If you look at a constituency map of the the UK, the English countryside is a sea of blue. An EU exit that removes export markets for UK farmers, removes billions in subsidies and removes the labour pool is not going to go down very well.

 

It's yet another reason why we won't be exiting.