panzer1 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 And don,t forget Alan it only took the eu 40 years to decide that throwing dead fish back in to the sea was a bad thing. Who says the eu cannot change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Paul Mason says it best in the guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/20/brexit-fake-revolt-eu-working-class-culture-hijacked-help-elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 And of course the guardian will have a selfless balanced view, it's like me quoting the sun to prove we should Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChet Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 And don,t forget Alan it only took the eu 40 years to decide that throwing dead fish back in to the sea was a bad thing. Who says the eu cannot change. Scientific evidence shows poor management had lead to a chronic decline in fish long before the CFP came into being. Hey ho just blame them for everything though. ---------- Post added 20-06-2016 at 15:06 ---------- And of course the guardian will have a selfless balanced view, it's like me quoting the sun to prove we should Brexit. It's not the Guardian, it's a man writing in the Guardian. Just like the repulsive Peter Hichtins backs Brexit in the pro-Remain Sunday Mail. There's balance for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Scientific evidence shows poor management had lead to a chronic decline in fish long before the CFP came into being. Hey ho just blame them for everything though. I don't know if that's true or not and with not link or reference I don't see what I should even consider it, but it's besides the point. Before we joined the EEC, those were our fish. Now they're everybody's. The fish thing isn't terribly important unless your livelihood is linked to the industry. It's just a flagrant case of what's mine is mine, but what's yours is ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Unfortunately the majority of masons target audience read the sun rather than the guardian. Good article, my only problem is why the socialist worker paper gas come out in favour of Brexit if it's bad for workers rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Unfortunately the majority of masons target audience read the sun rather than the guardian. Good article, my only problem is why the socialist worker paper gas come out in favour of Brexit if it's bad for workers rights? It's enforced moderation. Rather than following notionally "left" policies, or notionally "right" policies, we're perpetually stuck in the middle. Nobody on either side really likes it, but some fear radicalism more than impotence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The point us throwing dead fish back due to eu rules achieved what? You had already caught and killed them so you might as well eat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChet Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I don't know if that's true or not and with not link or reference I don't see what I should even consider it, but it's besides the point. Before we joined the EEC, those were our fish. Now they're everybody's. The fish thing isn't terribly important unless your livelihood is linked to the industry. It's just a flagrant case of what's mine is mine, but what's yours is ours. No, fish is 1% of GNP in Europe so not mega-important all things considered, unless you are a fisherman. You are a scientist. Is Nature good enough for you? http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v1/n2/full/ncomms1013.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The point us throwing dead fish back due to eu rules achieved what? You had already caught and killed them so you might as well eat them Now now. The EU worked on this very hard. The logic runs something like this: Something must be done. This is something. Therefore we must do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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