Cyclone Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 FTSE index shows market confidence that we will return a remain vote today. Make it so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamston Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The people of some of the original remaining EU members will want their own referendums very quickly after the result, without waiting to see if the UK are doing OK. Geert Wilders the Dutch opposition leader said on the news yesterday, that if the UK votes to leave, then he would seek a referendum. The Eu bureaucrats will certainly be worried at the moment that their gravy train may be about to be derailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Have faith the EU can change. It will have took notice of the millions of dissenters from this vote. It will not change enough, or quickly enough, unless it faces an existential threat. A vote to leave will trigger a chain reaction across Europe and the very existence of the EU will be threatened... only then will it change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewalk Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The EU can change alright. With TTIP and and Junckers desire for an EU Army to fight Russia it will only change for the worse though. "EU Army to fight Russia" Why do you believe such rubbish ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The difference is simply that we have UKIP offering a non-racist solution to the problems of mass immigration and their rise brought about the demise of the BNP. Ukip non-racist? Are you joking? I'm sure there are some decent people in the party, a few good eggs for sure but...........that poster last week. Racist to the max. ---------- Post added 23-06-2016 at 08:58 ---------- You think Juncker is Jesus???? Even if he did its not as bad as thinking Nigel Farage is God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 It will not change enough, or quickly enough, unless it faces an existential threat. A vote to leave will trigger a chain reaction across Europe and the very existence of the EU will be threatened... only then will it change. So you want disruption and division across Europe? We just went through major depression and longest peacetime period in history. And you want to plunge us back into recession and instability without a friend? Talk sense man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewalk Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 The difference is simply that we have UKIP offering a non-racist solution to the problems of mass immigration and their rise brought about the demise of the BNP. Something the Left could never do by shouting 'racist' at people with immigration concerns. And here we are today. With a vote on whether to leave the EU hanging in the balance and the biggest driver (rightly or wrongly) for people wanting out is the lack of immigration control. Even if the vote goes to Remain the concerns are not going to go away and are only going to grow stronger. The march towards the right (UKIP in this country) will continue until the ruling elite do the people's bidding or lose their grip on power. And in other parts of Europe the threat to the ruling elite is a lot more scary than UKIP. Shoving left-wing and liberal ideas down the throat of an un-supportive general public is not making them more left-wing and liberal... it has the opposite effect. Only a return to the centre ground were most people want to stand is going to stop the polarisation of politics that is currently happening. UKIP offering s non racist solution ! "The march towards the right (UKIP)" I'm not sure if you actually believe all this but UKIP went into a General Election 12 months ago with 2 MPs and emerged with just 1...Hardly indicative of a "march" to power. Unless you're referring to something less constitutional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 FTSE index shows market confidence that we will return a remain vote today. Make it so. Well said. Vote remain for economic certainty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_W Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) Juncker only has the power elected politicians give him. The Brexit side has done nothing but tell lie after lie - the amount we pay in, Turkey's about to join, we can decide our own destiny, dictated by unelected Brussels bureaucrats, etc, etc. I'll be off to vote in a minute and then off to work. If the country votes out we'll have ten years of economic collapse.[/quote] You should be called LeMysticMeg, as for lies every side tells them [ ---------- Post added 23-06-2016 at 09:34 ---------- The difference is simply that we have UKIP offering a non-racist solution to the problems of mass immigration and their rise brought about the demise of the BNP. Something the Left could never do by shouting 'racist' at people with immigration concerns. And here we are today. With a vote on whether to leave the EU hanging in the balance and the biggest driver (rightly or wrongly) for people wanting out is the lack of immigration control. Even if the vote goes to Remain the concerns are not going to go away and are only going to grow stronger. The march towards the right (UKIP in this country) will continue until the ruling elite do the people's bidding or lose their grip on power. And in other parts of Europe the threat to the ruling elite is a lot more scary than UKIP. Shoving left-wing and liberal ideas down the throat of an un-supportive general public is not making them more left-wing and liberal... it has the opposite effect. Only a return to the centre ground were most people want to stand is going to stop the polarisation of politics that is currently happening. Bang on the money again Zamo ! ---------- Post added 23-06-2016 at 09:37 ---------- Ukip non-racist? Are you joking? I'm sure there are some decent people in the party, a few good eggs for sure but...........that poster last week. Racist to the max. ---------- Post added 23-06-2016 at 08:58 ---------- Even if he did its not as bad as thinking Nigel Farage is God Well your average lefty would say that .... Racist to the max, what utter garbage, you do know there are racists in every party ! Edited June 23, 2016 by Michael_W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Well your average lefty would say that .... Racist to the max, what utter garbage, you do know there are racists in every party ! Most people would be troubled by Farage's poster. That's why the official leave campaign had to disassociate from it. It's racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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