Baz1 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Do you not see that's exactly why this vote has ended as it has. People want change. The poorer people will still be poor if they voted to stay. Their lives won't change much. They don't want zero hour contracts and low wages and want houses that are affordable. The EU will collapse in a few years now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36615879 You may well be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Cameron press conference in 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woahthere Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html £350million for the nhs was a mistake. Lol Edited June 24, 2016 by woahthere Working link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Grim. The people have spoken. Glad I'm still in the EU, for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) This was definitely a kick up the backside for the establishment, and they seriously don't like it. But I think it will prove cathartic for much of the general population who have been shafted and ignored for way too long. Pity it was this very important issue that was at stake. However 2 things come to mind. First; don't forget what a parlous state Europe is in. It's far from plain sailing over there. And there's a lot worse to come. We are still part of Europe, but no longer bound by them. 2. Europe is just too big and wants to get bigger. Anybody who has tried to rule by committee knows how slow and difficult that is. 10 years to get a trade deal done? Please... We are now in a very fast moving world and we have to be able to react to it quickly. Now we will be in a better position to do it. Don't underestimate us. Think of us as the little ships that went out against the might of the great Armada. By having greater manouverability, ducking and diving, we won the day. That is how we will nowhopefully be in the world. Just theought of number 3. If it's any consolation to the Remainers, Margaret Thatcher was no fan of Europe, and that was before they got all the new powers. She would probably have been a Brexiter. Edited June 24, 2016 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Farage's Independence Day speech - priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenoside123 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Farage's Independence Day speech - priceless! I liked the tumbleweed moment when he joked that even the weather was better as following the out vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 This was definitely a kick up the backside for the establishment, and they seriously don't like it. But I think it will prove cathartic for much of the general population who have been shafted and ignored for way too long. Pity it was this very important issue that was at stake. However 2 things come to mind. First; don't forget what a parlous state Europe is in. It's far from plain sailing over there. And there's a lot worse to come. We are still part of Europe, but no longer bound by them. 2. Europe is just too big and wants to get bigger. Anybody who has tried to rule by committee knows how slow and difficult that is. 10 years to get a trade deal done? Please... We are now in a very fast moving world and we have to be able to react to it quickly. Now we will be in a better position to do it. Don't underestimate us. Think of us as the little ships that went out against the might of the great Armada. By having greater manouverability, ducking and diving, we won the day. That is how we will nowhopefully be in the world. I'm not worried about the UK's ability to set up deals etc, and to look after itself internationally. But I do think it would have been better if we had voted to remain. As far as this being a kick up the backside for the establishment - yes it is, but that doesn't mean that it will take any notice. What do the mass of people who admiinistered this kick to the backside expect to be changed, and how? If it mostly boils down to the level of immigration, then I can't see any meaningful change. It might be, as is claimed by some, not so much about the level of immigration, but about us taking control of that immigration. Fair enough, but if the actual effect is minimal, then I think it is a large price to pay for a feelgood "we are in control" feeling, and the pleasure of giving "them" a good kicking. Hearing Corbyn on TV this morning, I don't think he gets it at all. He talks of successive governments not listening to the public. But he is just as bad. He has his own view on how the country should operate. But that is his view. He is not listening to the disquiet any more than others have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzer1 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Well said sundae, I think you are right in most of your points. In order to administer the kick up the backside what other method did the electorate have. The GEs just keep the status quo with even labour taking no notice of the average persons fears, I think they need to take notice or there will be some more shocks to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I think the poll can be closed now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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