I1L2T3 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 You can't just say it will be imposed 'as simple as that'! Why will it when it isn't imposed on many other countries with which the EU has free trade agreements? It is imposed. Switzerland recently had a referendum about bringing in more border controls with the EU. Basically the EU told the Swiss that if they enacted any legislation off the back of the referendum then Swiss membership of the single market was in jeopardy http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/swiss-told-to-vote-again-on-free-movement-except-this-time-the-stakes-are-higher/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srt2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 It is imposed. Switzerland recently had a referendum about bringing in more border controls with the EU. Basically the EU told the Swiss that if they enacted any legislation off the back of the referendum then Swiss membership of the single market was in jeopardy http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/swiss-told-to-vote-again-on-free-movement-except-this-time-the-stakes-are-higher/ Isnt that blackmail? Doesn't sound like the type of folk you want to hang around with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Look I understand what your views are but try and get some substance into your arguments to back them up. You are just basically saying everything is going to be fine (or at least better) when you have no idea that it will be because you don't know what the plan is. If the 'leave' campaigns don't know what the plan is then how can you know? Like I said it's a leap in the dark. You want me to provide substance to my argument despite the fact that your argument has no substance. You are just saying that everything will be fine if we stay and a disaster if we leave. I prefer freedom whilst you clearly think a lack of freedom provides more security. The plan is for the elected UK government to run the country without any interference from Brussels, it isn't a leap in the dark it is a leap to freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Isnt that blackmail? Doesn't sound like the type of folk you want to hang around with We're not talking about people hanging around with each other though, we talking about countries negotiating in their national interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 It is imposed. Switzerland recently had a referendum about bringing in more border controls with the EU. Basically the EU told the Swiss that if they enacted any legislation off the back of the referendum then Swiss membership of the single market was in jeopardy http://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/swiss-told-to-vote-again-on-free-movement-except-this-time-the-stakes-are-higher/ That's one deal. The simple truth is that there are more countries with free trade deals that don't have open borders than with. It is unquestionable not a requirement of trade and if the UK doesn't want it why would the EU insist on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty27 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 We're not talking about people hanging around with each other though, we talking about countries negotiating in their national interest. And it will be in the interest of all EU countries to trade with the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 That's it in a nutshell. The EU exports more to the UK than we export to them. They really want trade tariffs like they want a hole in the head. If we join EFTA or follow the Swiss model there wouldn't be any tariffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srt2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 We're not talking about people hanging around with each other though, we talking about countries negotiating their hardest for their national interest. Many companies would shudder at the thought of not having our trade.They will beg us for it,not the other way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Isnt that blackmail? Doesn't sound like the type of folk you want to hang around with Not really. It's a reflection of the reality of trading in a single market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASGOWOODS Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 What liberties has the EU taken away from you? The freedom of wearing a pair of undercrackers, without having a 3 metre long tag inside containing every language under the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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