Fascists to Invade Sheffield. £500K Bill For Policing

[ormester101]

how one sided is this uaf and edl are as bad as each other the policing is just crazy i counted 12 police vans on howard street and more in town saw some edl side of the graduate light hearted and some uaf in town trying to give leaflets out that were vastly ignored.

[melthebell]

one thing, why were they marching in sheff anyway?

[altus]

one thing, why were they marching in sheff anyway?

 

Probably because they've managed to have a fight when they've been here before.

[kidley]

one thing, why were they marching in sheff anyway?

 

I wish i could say its better beer in Sheffield, But i cant

[Ridgewalk]

There is a history of confronting fascist groups in Britain. The Battle of Cable Street 1930s Lewisham 1977. This tradition continues today. Fascists tend to see controlling the street as highly symbolic.

 

From what I've seen the EDL does not have political opinions, ideas or strategies, beyond getting drunk, shouting slogans that they've first heard in football grounds, baring their chests to display lots of tattoos.

 

They only exist because football cleaned up its act and got rid of the hooligans so these same hooligans needed to find an alternative way of entertaining themselves. Indeed they were founded by convicted football thug and jailbird (currently doing a stretch for fraud) "Tommy Robinson". Problem for "Tommy" was that the oven got too hot so he bailed out of the kitchen

Anyone who's seen the UAF, Trade Unionists, Faith Groups (God Squaders) University types half of whom are female wouldn't argue any moral equivalence with the EDL who are 95% young males,

[Aleksandr]

Tomorrow morning, the EDL have chosen to infest our city with their repulsive brand of politics. Our police force face a £500 000 bill to maintain public order and safety. The shops in the city centre will also lose trade.

 

When Sheffield Wednesday, or United play at home, part of the policing bill is passed on to the clubs. It it time that the same principle was applied to violent political groupings? Should we bill the EDL £500 000 for disrupting our city tomorrow? Should we hold them responsible for lower takings from city centre shops?

As the violence only occurs because the equally reprehensible hand-wringing liberal lefties come out to cause trouble with counter-protests involving much goading and agitation, perhaps the cost should be shared.

[woodmally]

one thing, why were they marching in sheff anyway?

 

Apparently there is talk of more abuse cases but in Sheffield now not Rotherham. I tried looking for the link but couldnt find it.

[The Manager]

Tomorrow morning, the EDL have chosen to infest our city with their repulsive brand of politics. Our police force face a £500 000 bill to maintain public order and safety. The shops in the city centre will also lose trade.

 

When Sheffield Wednesday, or United play at home, part of the policing bill is passed on to the clubs. It it time that the same principle was applied to violent political groupings? Should we bill the EDL £500 000 for disrupting our city tomorrow? Should we hold them responsible for lower takings from city centre shops?

 

NOT read all thread but would that not be same for other lot as well who are against edl ?

[gwhite78]

A demonstration is not a viewpoint, it's a means to how you conduct yourself. Considering almost every if not all EDL's protest end in violence then property and people should be protected. If you wish to express an opinion by tearing a pub up or putting a bin through a shop window then expect a baton around the head. Free speech is fine but as soon as you put people and property at risk by actions, you've then lost the high ground.

 

 

 

Protests apply to everyone. The EDL do not need an adversary, they can't keep order amongst themselves let alone some other element being involved..I've yet to witness UAF turning in on themselves.

 

Of course demos are used for expressing viewpoints, alongside ideologies, grievances, disgust, disapproval, injustices and so on....

 

Why should we ban people from demo's because it may result in crimes, why stop there? why not ban driving, alcohol, football, shopping and other activities which may also have a high likelihood of crime?

[dave50]

The anti EDL protest will be the cause of any violence, the police presence will be to protect the EDL from the violent fascists.

 

well said my friend, well said.