Happ Hazzard Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We are not part of Europe. We have never been part of Europe. We are an island NEAR to Europe, but not part of it, never have been, never will. We should remain aloof, be able to trade with and associate with European countries but no more so than we do with our Commonwealth allies and other countries around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biotechpete Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Of course Greece can act as democratically as they wish. However, if they want to remain members of the Euro club, they have to abide by the rules of the club. So do the Germans, but nothing is done about it http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11584031/Germanys-record-trade-surplus-is-a-bigger-threat-to-euro-than-Greece.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 So do the Germans, but nothing is done about it http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/11584031/Germanys-record-trade-surplus-is-a-bigger-threat-to-euro-than-Greece.html It's up to the club to decide which rules it wants to enforce. Just because one member is let off its failings doesn't mean that another member should be let off its different failings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuddyduddy4 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 In the 1960's the common market was envisaged as a trading coalition ,but look at us now our hospitals,schools and social services all breaking down by mass migration .Our borders are like sieves ,our laws are been dreadfully manipulated by Brussels .Yes if we come out of the market we will initially suffer,but I believe it is the lesser of two evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukdobby Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The Greek puppet show(government) are messing with millions of peoples lives,their pensions are larger than Germanys,how can a country in the mire pay so much in benefits to their own people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 In the 1960's the common market was envisaged as a trading coalition ,but look at us now our hospitals,schools and social services all breaking down by mass migration .Our borders are like sieves ,our laws are been dreadfully manipulated by Brussels .Yes if we come out of the market we will initially suffer,but I believe it is the lesser of two evils. Stop your businesses asking migrants to come and do work that your own will not get off their benefits and backsides to do then.Get your own unemployed to leave home and get into the chicken processing factories working for peanuts.Get your own nurses trained up instead of relying in migrants to come and do what you have no will to do as a country,and then moan and whinge about it when they do come,due to your own governments and system failing to deliver what it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocketMan Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 We will not leave the Euro.....Brits fear change and will vote for the safer option of staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 What effect has greece had on your decision to leave euro?None whatsoever. Kick the Franco-German eurotechnocratic establishment up the backside (twice) and renegotiate the UK's membership on more favourable terms. Stay in the EU. Stay out of the €uro. Leave the Greek problem to the €Z, but feel free to point and laugh at both (€Z and Greeks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 None whatsoever. Kick the Franco-German eurotechnocratic establishment up the backside (twice) and renegotiate the UK's membership on more favourable terms. Stay in the EU. Stay out of the €uro. Leave the Greek problem to the €Z, but feel free to point and laugh at both (€Z and Greeks). Roughly how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Roughly how I feel. The EU is not static. It's never been static and it never will be. At best we will be offered a slower pace of integration. The €zone is ahead of the non-€ countries in terms of integration, but exactly the same institutions, leaders, civil servants and organisations are running the EU who run the €. If we don't leave, exactly the same fate will befall us. We'll either end in in Greece's situation of being run from the EU and losing any real self-determination, or Germany's situation of being forced to throw hard-earned money at a dysfunctional state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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