retep Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Well done. Monbiot's article I referenced earlier linked to that article albeit on a different site: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/jun/08/monckton-gift-climate-denial I particularly liked Monbiot picking out this section: presumably the basis of this "venomous ad hominem" was the slight misquote that Abraham apologised for in his reply: http://www.skepticalscience.com/Abraham-reply-to-Monckton.html Monckton's misquotes and misattributions however are a little more serious: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/jun/03/monckton-us-climate-change-talk-denial Monbiot is spot on when he says "Monckton's climate denial is a gift to those who take the science seriously" He has no credibility and hopefully those that support him are easily discredited and the debate can move on to what we are going to do about it and not dealing with wishful thinking liars. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/24/lord-monckton-wins-global-warming-debate-at-oxford-union/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted June 19, 2010 Share Posted June 19, 2010 http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/05/24/lord-monckton-wins-global-warming-debate-at-oxford-union/ It just shows how worthwhile it was for John Abraham to so thoroughly go through Monckton's arguments showing him up for consistently and thoroughly misrepresenting the evidence of nearly every source of information he uses then. http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 It just shows how worthwhile it was for John Abraham to so thoroughly go through Monckton's arguments showing him up for consistently and thoroughly misrepresenting the evidence of nearly every source of information he uses then. http://www.stthomas.edu/engineering/jpabraham/ The audience fell asleep :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 The audience fell asleep :hihi: Sounds like you've been duped again. But there's no fool like an old fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Sounds like you've been duped again. But there's no fool like an old fool! Thought i'd sent you for a long stand, have you found it yet, it's at the side of the rubber nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Sounds like you've been duped again. But there's no fool like an old fool! retep's not interested in facts. He prefers blind instinct and prejudice, facts tend to cloud his judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 retep's not interested in facts. He prefers blind instinct and prejudice, facts tend to cloud his judgement. But he doesn't need wiki to find them. Panic over polar bear is back on the menu. http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/061310/reg_653073627.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 But he doesn't need wiki to find them. Panic over polar bear is back on the menu. http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/061310/reg_653073627.shtml Your article says nothing about the topic or why a panic should be over. The fact is polar bear numbers are decreasing because of global warming. http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/polar-bears/bear-essentials-polar-style/human-interaction/climate-change http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8700000/8700472.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted June 20, 2010 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Your article says nothing about the topic or why a panic should be over. The fact is polar bear numbers are decreasing because of global warming. http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/polar-bears/bear-essentials-polar-style/human-interaction/climate-change http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8700000/8700472.stm They'll be panic buying of polar bear coats if the next bogey man turns up, http://www.examiner.com/x-32936-Seminole-County-Environmental-News-Examiner~y2010m5d19-Triple-Crown-of-global-cooling-could-pose-serious-threat-to-humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted June 21, 2010 Share Posted June 21, 2010 They'll be panic buying of polar bear coats if the next bogey man turns up, http://www.examiner.com/x-32936-Seminole-County-Environmental-News-Examiner~y2010m5d19-Triple-Crown-of-global-cooling-could-pose-serious-threat-to-humanity With the PDO in a cooling phase and sunspot activity down, we have still had the warmest 12 months on record. If a volcano goes up and drops temperatures for a bit... that won't affect the overall warming trend that the article attests to with the evidence of the PDO and sunspot activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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