convert Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 How many windmills will India need ? How much concrete will be needed to support those windymills, how many resources will be consumed by building them, how much CO2 will that generate (doesn't matter though as they're a 'devolping country' and it's a different kind of CO2 )? However the most important question is just how much electricity will they generate, how efficient are they? Oh, hang on; none of that matters; just think of the subsidies they'll 'generate'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinac Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 http://www.skepticalscience.com/Climate-scientists-respond-to-Moncktons-misinformation.html Monckton is clearly a fraud. I agree. Anyone else? Who stands by him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 So, we're back to the discredited Mann (of Hockey Schtick infamy), Trenberth, Schmidt, Hansen, et al. The only fraud here is the one being perpetrated upon joe public by the warmists keen on keeping both the money (for research you know) and the 'fame' that goes with it. Someone please show me the link between anthropgenic generated CO2 and climate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 So, we're back to the discredited Mann (of Hockey Schtick infamy), Trenberth, Schmidt, Hansen, et al. The only fraud here is the one being perpetrated upon joe public by the warmists keen on keeping both the money (for research you know) and the 'fame' that goes with it. Someone please show me the link between anthropgenic generated CO2 and climate.... Here's a link to a site which might know, http://www.co2science.org/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Here's a link to a site which might know, http://www.co2science.org/index.php Nope, can only see correlations put forward there. No proof of causation, or even evidence as to whether CO2 lags or leads temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Here's a link to a site which might know, http://www.co2science.org/index.php Because Oil industry backed lobbiests are a good place to go for unbiased information? http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 (edited) So, we're back to the discredited Mann (of Hockey Schtick infamy), Trenberth, Schmidt, Hansen, et al. The only fraud here is the one being perpetrated upon joe public by the warmists keen on keeping both the money (for research you know) and the 'fame' that goes with it. Someone please show me the link between anthropgenic generated CO2 and climate.... The hockey stick has been proved correct by studies analysing a variety of different sources including corals, stalagmites, tree rings, boreholes and ice cores. http://www.skepticalscience.com/broken-hockey-stick.htm Your allegations of fraud are revealing. If you really think the whole scientific community is involved in a lefty fraud to redistribute wealth to the third world, then all it shows is the extent of your gullibility. As you have seen before you can find all the evidence you need along with sources and references to papers here: http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm Edited November 20, 2010 by Wildcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Of course it was:rolleyes: Keep taking the tablets, lie down and think of winter. Your reading ability appears to be subnormal I doubt any ten year old would read what what you posted and come to the conclusions you did: For the record:We at the DeSmogBlog are proud of our principal funder, John Lefebvre. That’s why we list him on our website. Unlike the people at Monckton’s SPPInstitute.org. (which split off from the Frontiers of Freedom Institute so they could try to deny their Exxon connections) we have maintained a policy of transparency, and will continue to do so. It was also a tactical error to start pointing people to helpful websites with clear graphs and reliable science that could support my position. It left open the possibility for Monckton to say, “I could produce 35 graphs” to the contrary - which fiction then drifted to the listeners as if it were, well, accurate in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Your reading ability appears to be subnormal I doubt any ten year old would read what what you posted and come to the conclusions you did: Just as well you're like a five year old to wind up then innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Matt] Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 How much concrete will be needed to support those windymills, how many resources will be consumed by building them, how much CO2 will that generate (doesn't matter though as they're a 'devolping country' and it's a different kind of CO2 )? However the most important question is just how much electricity will they generate, how efficient are they? Oh, hang on; none of that matters; just think of the subsidies they'll 'generate'. Hybridised nuclear power is the way to go... screw greenpeace and their one time anti nuclear slant. If we wish to reduce carbon emissions then this is the way to go, not some overblown scheme to rely on wind power when the wind itself is unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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