muchtoofair Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 VAT scam on carbon trading,reported in Guardian.Ironically in copenhagen. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/03/copenhagen-summit-carbon-trading-scam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Perhaps Peak oil is not as close as we think... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/6708902/Falkland-Islands-oil-reserves-to-help-British-economy.html Potentially 60 Billion barrels in the area... Considering the world's biggest oilfield is Ghawar in Saudi Arabia, is thought to contain 80 billion barrels. The largest oilfield in the North Sea is Forties, which has five billion barrels. Fire up the Quattro Try the Canadian oil shales... " In fact, the reserve that is deemed to be technologically retrievable today is estimated at 280-300Gb (billion barrels). This is larger than the Saudi Arabia oil reserves, which are estimated at 240Gb..... From here.. http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/102spring2002_web_projects/m.sexton/ There's ten times more than that but it's not recoverable at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 The rats are leaving the ship. http://www.prisonplanet.com/gore-cancels-on-copenhagen-lecture-–-leaves-ticketholders-in-a-lurch.html Looks like fat Albert has decided to cancel a lecture at 'hopenfakem'. I wonder if he'll refund the ticket holders $1209 each... Or will he use it to help reduce all those carbons and save the Polar Bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayfish Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Perhaps Peak oil is not as close as we think... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/6708902/Falkland-Islands-oil-reserves-to-help-British-economy.html Potentially 60 Billion barrels in the area... Considering the world's biggest oilfield is Ghawar in Saudi Arabia, is thought to contain 80 billion barrels. The largest oilfield in the North Sea is Forties, which has five billion barrels. Fire up the Quattro This will be protected under the Antarctic Treaty and politically inaccessible. The oil shales are being exploited. It is one of the most environmentally damaging undertakings ever dreamt up by man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Hide the Decline. This is going to be part of the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 today. You can call in on 0500 288291 Or you can text on 88291 Or you can email from this web link http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jeremy-vine/contact/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim4 Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 The founder and former president of Greenpeace explains why he left the organisation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtYW_PX31EM#t=3m57s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithster Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I've only just stumbled across this thread, and I really can't be bothered to trawl through every post on the off chance that some of them might be intelligent, reasoned posts which aren't insulting other users. But I do have one question relating to something which seems to be a common the running not only through this thread but in the climate change deabte in general.... Where are these green taxes that everybody seems to think are the sole reason for all of the claims of AGW? As far as I am aware, I have never been asked to apy any 'green tax' in my life, and haven't heard of any plans to introduce such a thing either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I've only just stumbled across this thread, and I really can't be bothered to trawl through every post on the off chance that some of them might be intelligent, reasoned posts which aren't insulting other users. But I do have one question relating to something which seems to be a common the running not only through this thread but in the climate change deabte in general.... Where are these green taxes that everybody seems to think are the sole reason for all of the claims of AGW? As far as I am aware, I have never been asked to apy any 'green tax' in my life, and haven't heard of any plans to introduce such a thing either. For a start how about the Fuel duty escalator, then the benefit in kind taxes on company cars / fuel - all based on CO2 output. How about the Aviation tax. I could go on, but Google really is your friend here. How about this for a first shot through Google http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/green-living/new-green-taxes-to-be-unveiled-1809546.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Its a big con. Looks like even Al Gore has had enough of it as well.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/gore-cancels-personal-appearance-copenhagen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
convert Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Looks like even Al Gore has had enough of it as well.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/03/gore-cancels-personal-appearance-copenhagen/ Perhaps his next film should be entitled:- An Inconvenient Untruth:- how I infiltrated the AGW camp and exposed the lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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