Am I still allowed to question climate change?

[Cyclone]

No, it's primarily and IT journal, but they have a passing interest in all things science and a cynical mindset.

[El Cid]

No, it's primarily and IT journal, but they have a passing interest in all things science and a cynical mindset.

 

If you look at other web sites they give real discriptions of what is happening, it is the "the negative phase of the Indian Ocean Dipole".

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-scientist-explains-the-mystery-of-recent-sea-level-drop

 

Sea levels fell in the 1960s, sea levels are constantly rising and falling.

 

http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators#seaLevel

[Eli Nich]

Sea levels fell in the 1960s, sea levels are constantly rising and falling.

Isnt that supposed to be like that?

[Cyclone]

It's difficult to claim that sea levels are constantly rising then (that's what AGW proponents claim)... Oh, but wait, suddenly sea levels vary naturally, we'd just forgotten about it for a while, when they were rising, but now they've fallen a little we've remembered.

[angos]

It's difficult to claim that sea levels are constantly rising then (that's what AGW proponents claim)... Oh, but wait, suddenly sea levels vary naturally, we'd just forgotten about it for a while, when they were rising, but now they've fallen a little we've remembered.

 

Its not a claim I have ever seen, I've seen claims that its rising on average over time, I've seen claims that temperature is rising on average over time, never seen any that its constant, only a loony would make such a claim.

[El Cid]

 

It's difficult to claim that sea levels are constantly rising then (that's what AGW proponents claim)...

 

There will always be local climate variations, just as here in the UK the local climate was warmer, then a few colder winters.

[angos]

There will always be local climate variations, just as here in the UK the local climate was warmer, then a few colder winters.

 

Opponents to AGW should look at the climate like they look at the stock market or house prices, they all go up and down but with a long term trend for up.

[retep]

The latest from the experts is we don't have a clue, we'll blame it on humans, that should keep the money rolling in.

[Cyclone]

There will always be local climate variations, just as here in the UK the local climate was warmer, then a few colder winters.

 

A decade of no temperature rises you mean?

 

The long term trend to warming existed before the industrial revolution.

 

In fact we've been in a 10k period of unusually stable weather, shall we blame neanderthals for it?

 

Basically we haven't got a clue what is happening or why, we've not got the faintest idea how we are affecting the system. More study is needed, but it's way too early to blame changes on anything we've done. We can't forecast the weather next week, sea rise estimates have been consistently wrong, predictions for rising temperatures are wrong. Yet people believe models which claim to predict things in decades time.

[angos]

A decade of no temperature rises you mean?

The long term trend to warming existed before the industrial revolution.

 

 

The last decade was warmer than the previous decade and the 10 warmest years on record all occurred after 1998 with 2010 and 2005 ranking as the hottest years on record, all this at a time when the sun had lower solar activity. Not bad for a climate that you claim isn't warming.