Cyclone Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Yes, sea levels have been rising for thousands of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 What are you saying? Sea levels have been rising for many thousands of years. ---------- Post added 03-11-2013 at 23:44 ---------- I have yet to hear a scientiic alternative to why are temperatures have risen since 1900. I dont totally agree with the IPCC, but there is no credible alternative. Perhaps this, "Study says warmer temperatures are largely due to natural 300-year cycles" Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2485772/Global-warming-pause-20-years-Arctic-sea-ice-started-recover.html#ixzz2jf5WQ8ll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Perhaps this, "Study says warmer temperatures are largely due to natural 300-year cycles" The links that Cyclone posted a while ago showed that levels have ups and downs lasting thousands of years. But prior to this century levels were roughly flat or 2,000 years. So a 300 year cycle is just a daily mail headline? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Holocene_Sea_Level.png Edited November 4, 2013 by El Cid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The links that Cyclone posted a while ago showed that levels have ups and downs lasting thousands of years. But prior to this century levels were roughly flat or 2,000 years. So a 300 year cycle is just a daily mail headline? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Holocene_Sea_Level.png Prior to the 20th century what accurate readings were there for any of the global warming claims? I think you will find the headlines of the global warming brigade are far less accurate than the Daily Mails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Prior to the 20th century what accurate readings were there for any of the global warming claims? It depends on what level of certainty you want. Most scientists believe in man made climate change, to some extent. So it is prudent to take action to reduce our footprint. Reducing our footprint can make us happier and healthier, instead of becomming bloaters that rarely exercise and consume too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 It depends on what level of certainty you want. Most scientists believe in man made climate change, to some extent. So it is prudent to take action to reduce our footprint. Reducing our footprint can make us happier and healthier, instead of becomming bloaters that rarely exercise and consume too much. Reducing your footprint while others expand theirs can only make you poorer and more stupid, but you carry on denying yourself, someone will make use of your share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 Reducing your footprint while others expand theirs can only make you poorer and more stupid, but you carry on denying yourself, someone will make use of your share. The UK, along with other developed countries caused our massive use of resourses, so we should be the first to cut back. The UKs Department for International Development is doing its best to make poorer countries richer and more developed. Perhaps this too is counter productive to our effects to reduce our own footprint. But it must be ethical to do the right thing? People in this country dont starve or die from cold conditions because we are poor, they die because the Government are inept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 The UK, along with other developed countries caused our massive use of resourses, so we should be the first to cut back. The UKs Department for International Development is doing its best to make poorer countries richer and more developed. Perhaps this too is counter productive to our effects to reduce our own footprint. But it must be ethical to do the right thing? People in this country dont starve or die from cold conditions because we are poor, they die because the Government are inept. Yep they should reopen the coal mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It depends on what level of certainty you want. Most scientists believe in man made climate change, to some extent. So it is prudent to take action to reduce our footprint. Reducing our footprint can make us happier and healthier, instead of becomming bloaters that rarely exercise and consume too much. You're conflating too different issues here, personal movement/consumption is not really the issue re:national levels of emissions. That's more about the economy and industry. The % of CO2 that comes from personal transport for example is something like 5. So if we all gave up cars tomorrow, we would still be a long way from meeting CO2 reduction commitments that the government has made! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeX Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Global warming http://i.imgur.com/yMqg2gl.jpg First snow in Cairo, Egypt in 112 years. I bet they are still better at driving in it than we are in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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