Am I still allowed to question climate change?

[Halibut]

For heaven's sake.

The whole point is that we haven't established with any confidence that your slow lingering extinction will happen.

If we waste trillions of pounds trying to prevent something harmless we consign our descendants to poverty needlessly.

 

Changing our economies and industry to run on renewables wouldn't be a waste of money whether we're headed towards extinction or not, nor would investing in renewables necessarily condemn anyone to poverty either.

[cassity]

For heaven's sake.

The whole point is that we haven't established with any confidence that your slow lingering extinction will happen.

If we waste trillions of pounds trying to prevent something harmless we consign our descendants to poverty needlessly.

 

Do you think vast amounts of pollutants globally are harmless, regardless of climate change?

[unbeliever]

Do you think vast amounts of pollutants globally are harmless, regardless of climate change?

 

Absolutely not.

But real pollution has become neglected because of the obsession with CO2.

 

We're actually burning and hacking down rainforest to generate farmland for biofuels.

 

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Changing our economies and industry to run on renewables wouldn't be a waste of money whether we're headed towards extinction or not, nor would investing in renewables necessarily condemn anyone to poverty either.

 

You're kidding right?

You've not fallen for this nonsense about renewable eventually becoming cheaper than regular power generation surely?

They're insanely expensive.

Edited July 8, 2015 by unbeliever

[retep]

Changing our economies and industry to run on renewables wouldn't be a waste of money whether we're headed towards extinction or not, nor would investing in renewables necessarily condemn anyone to poverty either.

 

Cost of renewables,

 

"Why are greens so keen to destroy the world’s wildlife?"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11718550/Why-are-greens-so-keen-to-destroy-the-worlds-wildlife.html

[GLASGOWOODS]

Changing our economies and industry to run on renewables wouldn't be a waste of money whether we're headed towards extinction or not, nor would investing in renewables necessarily condemn anyone to poverty either.

 

Haha!

 

Testicle post of the week.

[Cyclone]

Hasn't it been the case that wind farms are sometimes subsidised in order to NOT generate power?

 

The economic picture you paint is accurate, so natural market forces would cause a shift to renewables without throwing billions of tax payer £ at it now.

[GLASGOWOODS]

Hasn't it been the case that wind farms are sometimes subsidised in order to NOT generate power?

 

The economic picture you paint is accurate, so natural market forces would cause a shift to renewables without throwing billions of tax payer £ at it now.

 

Yep. Scottish government paid out millions last year when the turbines were off.

[unbeliever]

Yep. Scottish government paid out millions last year when the turbines were off.

 

Indeed. But when the greens quote the cost per kWh for wind, they ignore this in addition to ignoring the monumental backup/storage costs.

[Eater Sundae]

I've no link, but on radio 4 this morning they were discussing some research from NASA which indicated that the sea temperature is rising at lower depths, and that this correlates with the apparent failure of surface temperatures to rise as expected over the last decade or so.

 

ie, the earth is heating up, still, but not at the surface as may have been expected, but that much of the heat is now within the depths of the oceans. How (or if) this will manifest itself in practical terms in the future, they didn't discuss.

[convert]

Study Finds Earth’s Ocean Abyss Has Not Warmed.

 

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2014/06oct_abyss/

 

 

 

BBC talking out of their rear again, wasn't Roger Harrabin was it?