Obelix Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 And I bet if you had something that supported your view you'd hail it as 100% proof and the end of the debate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 And I bet if you had something that supported your view you'd hail it as 100% proof and the end of the debate... Such debates never end. You already know that. And nor do they convince anyone, in most situations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm sorry but the debate on AGW is effectively closed as to the source of it already. It'll take some stunning evidence to prove it's false at this point, all that most people are looking at is the magnitude of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm sorry but the debate on AGW is effectively closed as to the source of it already. It'll take some stunning evidence to prove it's false at this point, all that most people are looking at is the magnitude of it. Of course the debate is closed. Those that cannot believe in climate change dont have an alternative. We believe the temperatures are rising, the effect of that are melting ice and rising sea levels. We do not hear of alternative causes, it is not the Sun, it is not Moon; the only suspected cause of this warming is the greenhouse effect. People try to play the man instead of the ball. Its always been clear that the earth continued to warm, because the sea level continued to rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 It's not a question of true or false. It's about the sign and magnitude of the net effect of all the feedbacks. The question is the CO2 sensitivity of the system. I have explained this in great detail on multiple occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little malc Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 climate change is happening but what is not so clear, how much or any is down to mankind or is it cyclical as it's always been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 climate change is happening but what is not so clear, how much or any is down to mankind or is it cyclical as it's always been? Is that unclear? The fact that the warming is anthropogenic is pretty much proven is it not? There is no natural cycle that the current warming would fit into, so not only is the science behind the warming proven, but there is no reasonable alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Is that unclear? The fact that the warming is anthropogenic is pretty much proven is it not? There is no natural cycle that the current warming would fit into, so not only is the science behind the warming proven, but there is no reasonable alternative. I understand a big spike occured with the industrial revolution (saw it on natgeo) and it's still going. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHRemovals Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Theresa may is a denyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Is that unclear? The fact that the warming is anthropogenic is pretty much proven is it not? There is no natural cycle that the current warming would fit into, so not only is the science behind the warming proven, but there is no reasonable alternative. That doesn't preclude a non-anthropogenic component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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