TheRocketMan Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Insurance companies should pay for them.... Car insurance, home insurance, personal injury insurance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Both police and ambulances should be publicly funded. They are both fantastic resources. We had several 10% council tax increases to fund a police helicopter in Sheffield money well spent... Still paying for that increase now! Underlined, that's not a full reason for publicly funding them - that's just an obvious statement. bold, At only 10% tax for a city/and area with a huge population and number of contributors, it seems like a bargain... but not everywhere is populated so densely... how many should be distributed and where, and paid for by whom? If there is a full ambulance service for the whole country, then you are going to have to pay a lot more than 10%, unless you are suggesting localised taxing. Someone who lives in rural district can't afford this, so the cost has to be divided between all of us. ---------- Post added 14-07-2015 at 01:05 ---------- Insurance companies should pay for them.... Car insurance, home insurance, personal injury insurance and insurance money, of course, comes from the sky-pixies. This is the way we are heading though! - Haven't you ever seen police interceptors? They either don't catch them, or do catch them and they get a weak/week penalty... however, regardless it tends to be quite consistent that many of the perpetrators that cause the need to for the chopper to be deployed, tend not to be insured (at best! ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Insurance companies should pay for them.... Car insurance, home insurance, personal injury insurance It's much more expensive (orders of magnitude more expensive) for insurers to pay out for permanently-disabled people than dead people. Air ambulances increase survivability rates and therefore the likelihood that a seriously injured person would survive with a permanent disability, rather than die at the scene or shortly after. Insurances are businesses, and turkeys don't vote for Xmas. /idea Feel free to think me callous, but I'm just calling a spade a spade here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRocketMan Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 It's much more expensive (orders of magnitude more expensive) for insurers to pay out for permanently-disabled people than dead people. Air ambulances increase survivability rates and therefore the likelihood that a seriously injured person would survive with a permanent disability, rather than die at the scene or shortly after. Insurances are businesses, and turkeys don't vote for Xmas. /idea Feel free to think me callous, but I'm just calling a spade a spade here. Ive seen the air ambulance on TV and its generally middle aged men who were speeding on a motorbike on sundays, people who fall off horses, hill walkers, rock climbers and the occasional car accident. All things that should be covered by insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Ive seen the air ambulance on TV and its generally middle aged men who were speeding on a motorbike on sundays, people who fall off horses, hill walkers, rock climbers and the occasional car accident. All things that should be covered by insurance. That's as may be...but you may have missed my point: unless they are forced to do so (by the Gvt), insurers are not going to fund air ambulances, when air ambulances have the likely effect of increasing the insurers' pay outs (and therefore hit their bottom line). Insurers are not subject to the Hippocratic oath or the NHS Charter, they don't have any duty to fund what's best to increase their customers' survivability, only to make as much of a return for their shareholders (besides honouring their contractual engagements with their customers). Edited July 14, 2015 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 who should fund them ? The idiots that use them! Why? That's not how the UK funds police/fire/ambulances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter71 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Prince William is now working as an air ambulance pilot- see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33503191 But why should air ambulances have to be funded privately by donation? Vehicular emergency ambulances aren’t. They’re treated just like both the other emergency services (sorry, AA, you don’t count!) And such helicopters ought to be, too. Not strictly true, fire & police are emergency services and as such are funded (at least partly) through local taxation. Ambulance are classed as an essential service and are funded via the nhs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The Air Ambulance and RNLI refuse government money because they would be subject to politics, changing financial priorities and endless interference from politicians seeking votes and photo opportunities. Good on em. As Sir Bob would say Give em your effin money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Why? That's not how the UK funds police/fire/ambulances. Certainly not the police, most of their job is just dealing with 'regular customers' and you can bet those scumbags don't pay a penny in tax towards the service they so regularly use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 The Air Ambulance and RNLI refuse government money because they would be subject to politics, changing financial priorities and endless interference from politicians seeking votes and photo opportunities. I've seen lots of references to this on the web, mainly from other forums, but not seen anything official stating this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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