drummonds Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 No, he's expecting all those that do earn more than that (education non withstanding) to pay the extra. what even the ones who decide to work abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilersarah Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 far from scrapping the fees! they should be increased to weed out the time wasters that just go on to uni with their dumbed down gcse and A level results to avoid joining the real world? then sitting around afterwards with the non degrees that are around now. increase by 50% if you really want to go and have only half on a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 what even the ones who decide to work abroad? http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/repaying-student-loans-when-you-move-overseas Still has to be paid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 what even the ones who decide to work abroad? You're missing my point. It's not about the people who've benefited paying it back, it's about anyone who ever earns more than 50k in the UK paying for it. The argument about people leaving the UK if they reach that earning potential is probably bogus. Earning 50k wouldn't suddenly tip you over the edge into moving abroad to avoid tax. As it is the NI contribution drops after about 45k, this would just mean that it wouldn't drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummonds Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/repaying-student-loans-when-you-move-overseas Still has to be paid.... how would they do that without tuition fees. ---------- Post added 16-07-2015 at 15:05 ---------- You're missing my point. It's not about the people who've benefited paying it back, it's about anyone who ever earns more than 50k in the UK paying for it. The argument about people leaving the UK if they reach that earning potential is probably bogus. Earning 50k wouldn't suddenly tip you over the edge into moving abroad to avoid tax. As it is the NI contribution drops after about 45k, this would just mean that it wouldn't drop. so anyone who got a free education in the uk could move away to another country and never pay a penny towards their education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwkittie Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I think it makes perfect sense that if you want a university education, you should pay for it, if you can. The current system is fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I think it makes perfect sense that if you want a university education, you should pay for it, if you can. The current system is fair. Which current system? The one which gives a bursary to those on the lowest incomes- where parental help is least likely. or The one that increases the debt of those on lowest income by changing the bursary into a debt? ( as announced in the July budget ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummonds Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Which current system? The one which gives a bursary to those on the lowest incomes- where parental help is least likely. or The one that increases the debt of those on lowest income by changing the bursary into a debt? ( as announced in the July budget ) both sound fairer than one that allows someone to pay nothing for higher education if they take their qualification with them to work in america but leave the bill to be paid by folk here who probably never went to university at all. that seems to be the one being promoted by corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 both sound fairer than one that allows someone to pay nothing for higher education if they take their qualification with them to work in america but leave the bill to be paid by folk here who probably never went to university at all. that seems to be the one being promoted by corbyn. The OP quotes Corbyn as saying that the fees would be met"...through a 7% rise in National Insurance contributions on anyone earning £50,000 or more a year." -obviously not "leave the bill to be paid by folk here who probably never went to university at all". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Which current system? The one which gives a bursary to those on the lowest incomes- where parental help is least likely. or The one that increases the debt of those on lowest income by changing the bursary into a debt? ( as announced in the July budget ) They could do what my kids did and get a job while they are at uni... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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