cgksheff Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 You can be a non-religious theist. You can have atheist religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 You can be a non-religious theist. You can have atheist religion. You can be an atheist and have a religion, atheism itself though has no characteristics with which you could base a religion upon. In other words; -you can be a non-religious theist -you can be a religious atheist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnAuK Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Wrong. Atheism is a lack of belief. Wrong. Atheism is a belief in something other than God. Someone with a lack of belief either way is known as an Agnostic. ---------- Post added 29-09-2015 at 09:11 ---------- You can be a non-religious theist. You can have atheist religion. What this person said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Wrong. Atheism is a belief in something other than God. Someone with a lack of belief either way is known as an Agnostic. Atheism is literally the absence of belief (in gods). The 'a' prefix means without/absent/not present. Theism = belief in god/s Atheism = without belief in god/s Obviously, if you held the belief that there specifically are no gods, then you would also sit in the atheism category because you would simultaneously have to be without the belief that gods exist. Through common misuse, 'agnostic' has come to mean, for some, an inbetween position of belief. Logically though, there is no position between having belief and not having belief. Edited September 29, 2015 by RootsBooster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DnAuK Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Atheism is literally the absence of belief (in gods). The 'a' prefix means without/absent/not present. Theism = belief in god/s Atheism = without belief in god/s Through common misuse, 'agnostic' has come to mean, for some, an inbetween position of belief. Logically though, there is no position between having belief and not having belief. Depends if you're using the classic definition, or the more modern stance that has been adopted. Quote - 'atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Depends if you're using the classic definition, or the more modern stance that has been adopted. Quote - 'atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities'. Only partial quoting to suit your needs? Naughty. Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[3][4][5] Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Wrong. Atheism is a belief in something other than God. Someone with a lack of belief either way is known as an Agnostic. ---------- Post added 29-09-2015 at 09:11 ---------- What this person said No it really isn't. Atheism is a lack of (that the "a-" part) theism. That is a lack of belief in gods. Strict atheism is a positive rejection of belief in god(s) as opposed to simply not believing. Agnosticism is not necessarily a lack of belief, but it does postulate that certain claims regarding god(s) are unknowable and improvable. ---------- Post added 29-09-2015 at 09:37 ---------- Depends if you're using the classic definition, or the more modern stance that has been adopted. Quote - 'atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities'. That's strict or "hard" atheism, rather than atheism in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootsBooster Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 No it really isn't. Atheism is a lack of (that the "a-" part) theism. That is a lack of belief in gods. Strict atheism is a positive rejection of belief in god(s) as opposed to simply not believing. Agnosticism is not necessarily a lack of belief, but it does postulate that certain claims regarding god(s) are unknowable and improvable. ---------- Post added 29-09-2015 at 09:37 ---------- That's strict or "hard" atheism, rather than atheism in general. 'Sctrict' or 'hard' atheism are generic buzzwords that can sometimes lead to confusion in discussion and debate, technically a belief that there are no gods would be anti-theism (the person would also be an atheist). Strictly speaking, a rejection of belief does not mean that you have to hold an opposing belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phanerothyme Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 The trouble is, within organised religion, reality for many is what an unelected figurehead makes of it. Not a bit of it. You can't experience reality vicariously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 In simpler terms then, reality is quite literally what you make of it. Trying jumping off a tall building and putting that to the test. Wrong. Atheism is a belief in something other than God. Dictionary says no. atheism ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/ noun noun: atheism disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. Just because I don't believe in Father Christmas, it doesn't mean I believe in Elves. Do you mean science as the "something else"? Science is not a belief system. When you turn on the lights, it's not faith that makes the bulb light up. When you're on your holiday charter flight, it's not the collective belief of the passengers that's keeping it in the air. If you want to prove that science is just another belief system, try jumping off a tall building. After all gravity is just a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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