taxman Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 If the interim Labour leader Harman tells all the Labour party to abstain in the vote on the budget...what is the actual point of The Labour Party or Her Majesty's Official Opposition? I could agree with her standpoint if it was a matter of national security, like bombing ISIS, but if she's just going to go along with any tory policy because it makes the Labour Party seem electable then it won't do. Faced with Tories, or Labour, (pretend tory lite, ineffectual, halfhearted tory )...nobody is going to vote for Tory Mk2 when there is a fully functioning Tory Mk1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Let's hope jezza Corbin gets the leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I believe Labour have realised what the word "labour" means. It means work. They need the votes of working people to get back into power and ignoring people and telling them they are wrong isn't going to wash anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Let's hope jezza Corbin gets the leadership. Hamas, Hezbullah and the British Conservative party all of them want him to win too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I believe Labour have realised what the word "labour" means. It means work. They need the votes of working people to get back into power and ignoring people and telling them they are wrong isn't going to wash anymore. The Labour Party at the moment only work for, and only represent the leadership of the Labour party. Which is why they are in such a horrible mess right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 Abstaining was just a cop out. If they support the welfare cuts they should have voted for them and if they oppose them they should have voted against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummonds Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Abstaining was just a cop out. If they support the welfare cuts they should have voted for them and if they oppose them they should have voted against them. it was indeed a cop out. if they had voted against the cuts some journalist might have asked where they would save the money without the cuts. then they would have been screwed. i can't wait for someone to ask corbin how he would fund the abolition of student tuition fees. where will the money come from now that the greek model has been shown to be flawed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 This vote was discussed on their leaders debate on BBC's Sunday Politics. One wouldn't commit but the rest were strongly against it, citing that what should a woman do if the man walks out and leaves her to bring up three children. Erm, pursue the father to pay his way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Abstaining was just a cop out. If they support the welfare cuts they should have voted for them and if they oppose them they should have voted against them. I think it's worse than that, it's pretty much acknowledging that alot of it was their idea - but they're too pig-headed to agree with it once it's a Tory policy. ---------- Post added 21-07-2015 at 10:29 ---------- what should a woman do if the man walks out and leaves her to bring up three children. Erm, pursue the father to pay his way? They can be taken to court and forced to pay maintenance can't they?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummonds Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The Labour Party at the moment only work for, and only represent the leadership of the Labour party. Which is why they are in such a horrible mess right now. it probably explains this http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13412121.Poll__60__of_voting_Scots_intend_to_support_SNP_in_next_year_s_Holyrood_election/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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