dangerousedd Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There are only a small number of people in Calais. Its not as if millions of people are trying to get into Britain from Calais. It wouldn't hurt the economy of Britain in the slightest to take them all in and resolve the crisis in that way. It only seems fare, considering Britains imperialist past and present day military involvement in the countries many of the migrants are coming from. only a couple of million more behind em, if they don't want to get in legally then stuff em. they've had plenty of chances to claim asylum on the way to the uk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MintPlumbing Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Yes you can. The NHS has been served by immigrant workers since it started, and it would fallen apart long ago without them. The vast majority of NHS staff are British, what makes you think it would have been impossible to train more British staff if there hadn't been a supply of immigrant medical staff available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milquetoast1 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There are only a small number of people in Calais. Its not as if millions of people are trying to get into Britain from Calais. It wouldn't hurt the economy of Britain in the slightest to take them all in and resolve the crisis in that way. It only seems fare, considering Britains imperialist past and present day military involvement in the countries many of the migrants are coming from. It only seems fayre that Norway and Denmark welcome them ... considering the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 The vast majority of NHS staff are British, what makes you think it would have been impossible to train more British staff if there hadn't been a supply of immigrant medical staff available?I didn't say the majority weren't British. Even if we did train more medical staff we would lose many of them to other countries, as we do now. I'm referring to those who leave Britain looking for better prospects, only they are not leaving this country to flee from misery, poverty or other great suffering, they are leaving to earn higher salaries and work less hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MintPlumbing Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I didn't say the majority weren't British. Even if we did train more medical staff we would lose many of them to other countries, as we do now. I'm referring to those who leave Britain looking for better prospects, only they are not leaving this country to flee from misery, poverty or other great suffering, they are leaving to earn higher salaries and work less hours. So they would be less likley to leave if they could work fewer hours for an higher salary. If migrants weren't available to work in the NHS, the NHS would need to do more to keep the staff they have and train, not a difficult task but it might need more money, the NHS wouldn't collapse though, it would just cost more. As a condition of paying for their training they could easily be tied into a contract that prevents them leaving without penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseOwl182 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Praise allah. Alhamdulillah. Pardon?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 So they would be less likley to leave if they could work fewer hours for an higher salary. If migrants weren't available to work in the NHS, the NHS would need to do more to keep the staff they have and train, not a difficult task but it might need more money, the NHS wouldn't collapse though, it would just cost more. As a condition of paying for their training they could easily be tied into a contract that prevents them leaving without penalties. No comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 No comment. Actually, and I'm sorry to pick you up on this, but "no comment" is a comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrea Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 'Over populated'? what does that even mean? If we were, for the sake of argument to use the 17 million self sustaining figure as a bastardised version of a max population figure then the number of potential migrants -which is?- added to the 50 million 'over population' I'm not sure we'd actually notice any real difference. The arguments for refusing migration into a country that has been invaded and migrated into and settled and resettled and re-invaded since the place was discovered more than a million years ago are very poor. Especially if they revolve around; 'we cant fit you in', even though the population density is on average 250 people/km square. 'It's our country' when 'we' clearly are very temporary occupiers. 'We can't afford to keep you' when we're the 9th richest country in the world Its means the available area of land can't support the population that is trying to live on it, so in the case of the UK it means there aren't enough resources for the population size, it can be overcome at a cost by exploiting the resources from other areas, but then it reduces the resources for the people and species that occupy that land, there is also an environmental cost of transporting resources from all over the world. ---------- Post added 07-08-2015 at 09:05 ---------- Actually, and I'm sorry to pick you up on this, but "no comment" is a comment. Used by people that don't want to incriminate themselves or admit to being wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Its means the available area of land can't support the population that is trying to live on it, so in the case of the UK it means there aren't enough resources for the population size, it can be overcome at a cost by exploiting the resources from other areas, but then it reduces the resources for the people and species that occupy that land, there is also an environmental cost of transporting resources from all over the world. ---------- Post added 07-08-2015 at 09:05 ---------- Used by people that don't want to incriminate themselves or admit to being wrong. And come to think of it is also a comment in effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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