El Cid Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Our climate affects all areas of life, directly or indirectly, and climate change will have wide-ranging impacts. The temperature record shows rising temperatures from around 1910, with a dip in 1945, then on the rise again from the 1970s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record I am guessing most of that rise has been beneficial, at what point does it start to be negative? 2014 was the hottest year on record, are certain countries now getting too hot; how about the UK, our climate has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It also shows the temperature hasn't really increased since the late 90's, which put a brake on people bleating on about 'Global Warming' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Our climate affects all areas of life, directly or indirectly, and climate change will have wide-ranging impacts. The temperature record shows rising temperatures from around 1910, with a dip in 1945, then on the rise again from the 1970s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record I am guessing most of that rise has been beneficial, at what point does it start to be negative? 2014 was the hottest year on record, are certain countries now getting too hot; how about the UK, our climate has changed. Could someone bother to inform whoever's running the weather of the fact? I wouldn't mind some warming sometime soon, summer's been pretty miserable so far, and most of July downright 'orrible Parents living near the Alsace have been enjoying 30+C every day (around 24C at night) for the past month and a bit, non-stop (wherein it eventually stops being so enjoyable...so I'm told ). Now, I can remember summers like that 30-odd years ago, and every now and then since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's also been predicted we will enter a mini ice age in the next decade or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 It suggests that we are lucky that we're not plunging back into an ice age from the current inter-glacial, which has lasted longer than is normal and effectively allowed the civilisation we have to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Sheffield weather record, yyyy mm tmax tmin af rain sun degC degC days mm hours 1905 1905 1 - 6.5 - 1.6 13 35.9 --- 1905 2 - 7.5 - 2.5 4 32.4 --- 1905 3 -10.4 - 3.5 0 72.0 --- 1905 4 - 10.1 - 3.8 3 59.5 --- 1905 5 - 14.9 -6.5 0 10.5 --- 1905 6 -19.0 -10.0 0 77.5 --- 2015 2015 1 -6.9 - 2.2 8 83.0 68.1# Provisional 2015 2 -6.9 - 2.0 5 35.4 80.8# Provisional 2015 3 -9.8 -3.2 1 68.7* 114.8# Provisional 2015 4 -14.3 -5.0 0 21.4 223.5# Provisional 2015 5 -14.8 -7.7 0 83.6 164.4# Provisional 2015 6 -19.1 -10.0 0 43.2 195.9# Panic over? Edited July 30, 2015 by retep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 Soil temperature at 0900 GMT (1915) 16.1 - at 30 cm depth, C 16.0 - at 2 feet depth, C Soil temperature at 0900 GMT (2005) 17.5 - at 5 cm depth, C 16.0 - at 10 cm depth, C 16.0 - at 20 cm depth, C 16.9 - at 30 cm depth, C 17.0 - at 50 cm depth, C 16.2 - at 100 cm depth, C http://www.met.reading.ac.uk/~brugge/reading_past_weather.html Although its only a small difference between 1915 and 2005, that is roughly the difference on the first graph, in line with climate change. Is that correct? Where is your data from retep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) Our climate affects all areas of life, directly or indirectly, and climate change will have wide-ranging impacts. The temperature record shows rising temperatures from around 1910, with a dip in 1945, then on the rise again from the 1970s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record I am guessing most of that rise has been beneficial, at what point does it start to be negative? 2014 was the hottest year on record, are certain countries now getting too hot; how about the UK, our climate has changed. The statistical confidence level that 2014 was the hottest year is 38%. This is because the measurement was within uncertainties/errors of several other years. It's not exactly a lie, but it's unlikely to be true. That's before we even get into the matter that the temperature records in question are routinely "adjusted". Basic global warming science says that a doubling of the CO2 level should increase global temperatures by 1C. Climate modellers say that in their simulations this rises to 1.5-4.5C. When one states that one "believes in climate change" it is necessary to specify whether this is basic global warming science or the simulations and furthermore which simulations since the results vary by a factor of 3. Edited July 30, 2015 by unbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 It's not exactly a lie, but it's unlikely to be true. That's before we even get into the matter that the temperature records in question are routinely "adjusted". You mention that they get "adjusted", without an actual comment. Do you think that they should not be "adjusted"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 You mention that they get "adjusted", without an actual comment. Do you think that they should not be "adjusted"? Hypothetically, there could be legitimate reasons for making adjustments. Without a proper explanation as to why they have been adjusted, and since the raw data are not made available; I find it highly dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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